Engine Casing Protection

[Krack]

Where can I find the above that MA stipulates in it's rules that you must have when competing. Bike's a K1 GSXR1000.

[jasonbw]

hop onto www.motorcycling.com.au

I'll try the search here, in the racing forum there was a thread by me about Whos racing... near the end they talk about the new engine casing protection rules.

[WET4URacing]

http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/index.php?cPath=71_98

[Madmax01]

the rule changes are here

http://www.ma.org.au/Content/MA/FormsRules/RuleInformation/2009InformationBulletins/RULE_CHANGE_15.2.3.4_Lateral_engine_covers.pdf

[Marcus]

Seen some NRC ones in the US for $99 + shipping

[LOAFIE]

I have one on the Busa, it works very well.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-GSXR-Engine-Slider-Crash-Protector-K1-K8-GSX-R_W0QQitemZ280321070911QQihZ018QQcategoryZ35232QQt cZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

[SLAC]

on 10 sets

:lmao::lmao: Ok i will take one and you can sell the other 9...

[WET4URacing]

Seen some NRC ones in the US for $99 + shipping


read the rules. the replacement covers dont meet the requirements

[WET4URacing]

:lmao::lmao: Ok i will take one and you can sell the other 9...


we make them to order. so if u want to bulk purchase for a cheaper price let me know

[SLAC]

On a seroius note wetty, do you have the left side cover(s) for a K1-2 1000? I noticed there were right only..

[WET4URacing]

never made a mould for em , the K3 changed alt cover and went all the way till last yr(dont know about K9 yet). the K3 can sort of go on if u wanna play

[WET4URacing]

oh yeh "serious" finished at 5pm

[Turtle]

Make your own, a bit of 3x2 hardwood from the hardware works great !!

[WET4URacing]

the rules say must be a composite or metal. steel bars or alloy cheka plate look really cool on the side of your 20k superbike

[Pirate]

read the rules. the replacement covers dont meet the requirements

Incorrect...

From Ross Martin at MA

Please note that at the MA Board meeting held on February 4th 2009 rule 15.2.3.4 (engine cases) was amended to read:

All lateral covers/engine cases containing oil and which could be in contact with the ground during a crash, must be protected by a second cover made from composite materials, type carbon or Kevlar, or be fitted with heavy duty crash resistant end cases made from solid metal.Plates and/or bars from aluminium or steel are also permitted. All these devices must be designed to be resistant against sudden shocks and must be fixed properly and securely. Bonding alone is not a suitable method of mounting.

The rule amendment applies immediately.

Thanks,

Ross Martin.

[Specs]

we make them to order. so if u want to bulk purchase for a cheaper price let me know

any for 05 r6?

[WET4URacing]

well there you go boys better get some of them heavy nrc covers that look ab so lut aly fab

[WET4URacing]

any for 05 r6?

no only whats on the web site.

[Krack]

Incorrect...

From Ross Martin at MA

Please note that at the MA Board meeting held on February 4th 2009 rule 15.2.3.4 (engine cases) was amended to read:

All lateral covers/engine cases containing oil and which could be in contact with the ground during a crash, must be protected by a second cover made from composite materials, type carbon or Kevlar, or be fitted with heavy duty crash resistant end cases made from solid metal.Plates and/or bars from aluminium or steel are also permitted. All these devices must be designed to be resistant against sudden shocks and must be fixed properly and securely. Bonding alone is not a suitable method of mounting.

The rule amendment applies immediately.

Thanks,

Ross Martin.

Ah, great. That opens up the options a fair bit. Thanks for the replies.

[j-rad]

Hi Wetty,

how about a Left side protector for a K5 GSXR?

Cheers

[jonoZRX]

Interesting discussion on Wetty's engine protector things here:

http://www.ksrc-au.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18601&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=engine+covers

It's long, but worth reading the whole thing. Don't know who is right or wrong, but it gets real funny on page 5 :lmao:

[ZXRider]

:dohsmiley:

[Stu23]

Interesting read......but it hasnt changed my opinion !

[WET4URacing]

yep i deleted them off that forum when i left it. but forgot a couple so i removed them to. i started that thread offering the green lot the heads up on the new rule before it happened and they bit my arse off. so if you are a member of that forum dont be ringin me for a price or email me sayin your from there coz u wont like what i have to say. cheers all. 10% off for rats

[Bigdog]

On ya Wettie, thank you for the Rats 10% discount :ayyy:

[Pirate]

Thats odd, its certainly not how that reads to me.


yep i deleted them off that forum when i left it. but forgot a couple so i removed them to. i started that thread offering the green lot the heads up on the new rule before it happened and they bit my arse off. so if you are a member of that forum dont be ringin me for a price or email me sayin your from there coz u wont like what i have to say. cheers all. 10% off for rats

[ZXRider]

I was a bit up in the air about it a first....Bet when he told a guy who asked him to share his pit at a recent practice day at EC to F%$k off ....My decision was made on him....

[frl0173]

Doesn't read like that to me either. After your posts on ksrc I don't think you will have to worry about getting any calls. Anyway the smart people go direct to handcraft.

[WET4URacing]

dosnt matter either way which way you wanna buy them i still keep food on the table . cheers for your biz b... but as this is your 1st post your prob from there

[frl0173]

Well yes I am, but I delete all my posts on here, just like you do! Btw I'll post up your comments on there so you won't get hassled by them, not that was likely ! Btw great business plan you have there!

[zRoYz]

Leave the bullshit to pms or emails, there has already been one flame war so there is no need for one here.

[jasonbw]

Hey Mr Wet4U, I'll grab one of those shark fins, will PM you now :ayyy:

[WET4URacing]

Well yes I am, but I delete all my posts on here, just like you do! Btw I'll post up your comments on there so you won't get hassled by them, not that was likely ! Btw great business plan you have there!


cheers for that.

[WET4URacing]

Hey Mr Wet4U, I'll grab one of those shark fins, will PM you now :ayyy:


no wories i'll sort it

[j-rad]

Hi guys,

Just after some advice on engine case protection.

I bought the attached from RatedR believing they will be ok but at the track days 6/7 June someone else thought they may not be good enough. Consider race day is looming I really need to find out if it's good enough....Also not 100% on how we've mounted it as that's the only place it seems to fit but looks different to their other ones which actually rest against the clutch cover itself, instead of sticking out in the breeze like mine does...

thanks
jarrad

[WET4URacing]

http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/index.php?cPath=71
this is what you need
http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=71_98&products_id=309

http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=71_98&products_id=310

http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=71_98&products_id=311

[j-rad]

Yeh thanks Wetty, I had checked em out (don't need left side, already have woodcraft) but was hoping to get away with it without spendingh $300-$400.

I'm after something cheaper like some of the homemade jobbies I've seen elsewhere on RATS which is why I thought the one I got would be ok.....

Which I'm still not sure if it is or not > after seeing what you're selling it would seem not though.

[WET4URacing]

we make what you have to use if you dont replace the cover with a H/duty replacement cover like your Wcraft 1. i run the Wcraft on my 10 coz we dont and arent makin for the older stuff. KRT use our carbon covers mainly coz there lite and when they do tip over they have loads of spare OEM covers in the truck. the piece you fitted looks like it will do more damage than protect. Richard Zaja slid down the road on sat and reordered a new carbon cover yest. it did its job well. protected the OEM cover and stopped oilling T3 for the rest of us behind. that was most of us. old fart is still too fast

[j-rad]

You make something similar? So yours won't do damage as opposed to what I've got???

I got mine from RATEDR mainly here's a pic from the site but it seems to be closer to the bike than mine, the bottom of mine seems to stick an AWFUL way out from the bike and I can see how that would damage things further.....so maybe I've installed incorrectly? *edit installed correctly*

[j-rad]

Wetty I can seem to find your other options? All I can really see for GSXR is the carbon stuff.. . . .

[WET4URacing]

no idea. thort the rule was hd alloy or a composite material.

[WET4URacing]

Wetty I can seem to find your other options? All I can really see for GSXR is the carbon stuff.. . . .

dont understand your question?

[j-rad]

Ok....I THINK I have mounted it incorrectly and needs to mount of the bolts with the clutch cover rather than the stator.....but then I'm wondering if then the stator won't be protected....


So is it the stator OR the clutch or BOTH that need to be protected/replaced?

So sorry for all of this, don't know any local racers to really ask :(

[WET4URacing]

if u dont ask u will never know dude

all lateral covers that contain oil need to be covered or replaced with a HD cover. your model needs the Clutch , alt(stator) and starter gear covers dealt with. i gave you 3 links to click. 1 for each cover.

do you understand this now????
if not you can call 0416215134
we need more racin. dont be scared

[j-rad]

Thanks mate, I think I just mis read one of your posts. I've got a stator cover, but need starter and clutch side sorted, we'll probably use the one I've bought and make a 'strap' or something similar that goes from the lower bolt of the starter slider > across the clutch cover and attached somewhere on there.......

Was hoping what I'd bought would be enough but don't want to get turned away on the day as I've already entered/paid etc so will go the overkill route first (also cheaper), will try and send a pic to one of the scrutineers to see what they think...

I saw a thread on here a while back that showed heaps of homemade options but can't find it for the life of me now!

Thanks again for that Wetty, not so much scared as just wanting to have it all 100% right :) been itching to go racing for a very long time so ain't nothing that would scare me away now! :D

Now if I could only work out how to connect the OBDII I'd be laughing! :lmao:

thanks again dude, see you up there by the sounds!

cheers
jarrad

[jasonbw]

The thread you were looking for is here:
http://www.nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9517

Look around 2/3rds of the way through the thread for the bits on the engine casing... remember it's always changing tho.

[j-rad]

The thread you were looking for is here:
http://www.nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9517

Look around 2/3rds of the way through the thread for the bits on the engine casing... remember it's always changing tho.

Hi mate, thanks for that but I've checked every page twice now and can't find any links or pics about engine cases.....there was a thread on here a while back that had stacks of pics in it showing everyones engine case protection, some dodgy as like a piece of strap metal across the cover, others had the full Woodcraft etc etc....

Feel free to whack me over the back of the head if I've missed it but I don't think it's that thread..........

I've talked to a mate Paul Campbell (RedBack Race Paint, 125cc racer here in canberra) and he seems to think if what I've got doesn't pass they may let me race so long as it's fixed for next time? Dunno about that myself but then I wonder how closely they check some of this stuff, which they will for the engine protection as it's easy to eye ball but yeh, don't want to arrive on the day, have forked out all this cash and get turned away on a technicality ? :dohsmiley: would just be my luck :D

[ozimoto]

Check out this site.They're in Sydney and delivery is $7.

http://www.carreragroup.com.au/

I bought some for the Daytona for racing.

[j-rad]

Check out this site.They're in Sydney and delivery is $7.

http://www.carreragroup.com.au/

I bought some for the Daytona for racing.

Thanks mate, they look the goods but too much $$$

Most likely will use the $50 slider and fabricate something that bolts onto that and over the clutch cover itself....for cheap cheap :)

I hope I've not overlooked anything!

[WET4URacing]

they do check so do turn up with something rather than nothing

[Specs]

didnt think this will pass but saw some guys using something similar to this at FX last weekend with some lockwire to secure it.

http://www.oppracing.com/images/3084-clutch-cover-gsxr1000-2005-2006/

[WET4URacing]

yes but must be mounted by at least 2 points. these OPP covers stick on which is ok OS but here they want em bolted on . fukt if i know why but they do . we are backward down here

[j-rad]

didnt think this will pass but saw some guys using something similar to this at FX last weekend with some lockwire to secure it.

http://www.oppracing.com/images/3084-clutch-cover-gsxr1000-2005-2006/

What about the starter cover on the same side as clutch?

[WET4URacing]

http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/images/IMGP1772.JPG
yes here it is http://www.wet4uracing.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=71_98&products_id=310

[j-rad]

Yeh I'd love one :) but that and the clutch cover ($165) will set me back more than what I have atm so will have to go the dodgy route, but will definately look at yours when $$ permits!

Thanks heaps though.....question was about the ones that Specs posted up but they seem only to be Clutch covers so yeh I can buy one of those and your starter cover for like 260ish which is better again but more than what I have UNLESS i just cant get around it!

Still looking for that thread that showed everyones home made jobbies, just CANNOT find it! Maybe I was dreaming........

[WET4URacing]

i was just showin you a starter cover. not tryin to sell em to u. you need to cover or protect both the covers on the right side with something. you will see allsorts of aperatus people have made to get thru sruitineering. some look like mecano contraptions. be fukt if i would have that on my pride n joy tho. just make it look good . remember more of the weekend your bike is in the pit box than on the track so u want it to look good not have others laughing out the side of the face at some agricultual contraption on the side of your loved 1

[SLAC]

Tell ya what wetty i might pop down very soon and get a clutch cover for a K2.. are they in stock or need to order them? Not worth fukin around finding sum thing cheaper when i can go to the a track day and bin and fuk the lot... Something is better than nothing.. well thats what i tell my wife!

[WET4URacing]

we have to make it. let me know a week in advance and i'll have 1 layed up.

[SLAC]

Done:ayyy:, start her on next Monday if like.. Dont be shy with layers in the middle ;)

[j-rad]

i was just showin you a starter cover. not tryin to sell em to u. you need to cover or protect both the covers on the right side with something. you will see allsorts of aperatus people have made to get thru sruitineering. some look like mecano contraptions. be fukt if i would have that on my pride n joy tho. just make it look good . remember more of the weekend your bike is in the pit box than on the track so u want it to look good not have others laughing out the side of the face at some agricultual contraption on the side of your loved 1

ahhh my bad mate :ayyy: the way things are going I may end up needing one but leaving it damned late now. we'll have a crack tomorrow night and by friday I'll know, but then then too late to order.

Initially I thought these looked REALLY good but the bit about lockwiring and there being no holes for the bolts...hmmmmmm...on second inspecting I see now :dohsmiley:
http://www.oppracing.com/images/3084...000-2005-2006/

might have to make do for one race and sort it for next as I agree, I'd rather something that suits the rest of the bike rather than making it look like crap and also agree on your earlier diagnosis, the slider in place atm WILL tear out in crash as front on/lower side sticks out WAAAAY too far. NOW I find out the part I ordered was more aimed at road bikes so doesn't suit so well.......should've ordered those covers from you a month ago :lmao:

had 2 flat tyres last track day on new slicks and had to buy a new rear from the gys, also bought a set of wets so was hoping that was the last of the big expenses.....

Where was that I read somewhere about this sport being expensive :dohsmiley: :D

Thank christ for wives who ride hey!

[SLAC]

J-rad you can make them yourself.. You need all the epoxy some carbon sheet and fibre glass and patients.. Aint worth really, i help a guy who does glassing and bullet proof vests for a living do my old mans 600. It was torture for me and a piece of piss for him.. I just didnt have the patients. Wanted to put more layers on, more epoxy etc every 10min..