In doubt for the Barry Sheene

[sbutler]

After all the time in the off season to prepair the bike, I might not make it anyway. The first round of the Championship has come & gone,[Wakefield last weekend] next is the Barry Sheene festival of speed over the Easter weekend.

It sort of went pair shaped when we got working on the front forks. After much discussion we decided to go for new racetech springs, that was all good, but when we tried to do some mods, we found the forks to be bent. To the eye you couldnt see anything. But when we spun them in the laith[spelling] both were bent, to the rear & one was also bent to one side :dohsmiley:

So they are off at Laurie's getting straightend.
In the mean time Ive been getting the moulds done for the raceglass, they are pretty much done, so I can get them off to John Allman at Mototech for painting, this week[with any luck]. So while it doesn't sound like a big deal, it is.

All the planets have lined up execpt for the money planet!! I need to stand on one foot facing the east chanting to the money gods for help. Yes Ive run out of money. So my assult on this years championship is pretty much gone. Im busting a gut to get there but its looking shaky! Im giving it my best shot but if I cant do it, I'll try for the next meeting. With any luck I should make that one.

I suppose I need a sponsor, but who's gonna sponsor a 51 year old dood, on a 17 year old bike? I doubt thats gonna happen:confused1: Im about $1000 away form running the years racing. But it may as well be a $1000000! I just cant fine any more on the money tree. So if anyone knows of a fast way to make a $1000 let me know!!!!
I will only be able to race when I have the cash to pay the costs. Like many other racers:(
But anyway, I'll still keep everyone up to date when we do get to the meetings, with some race reports & pics.
some pics of were Im up to.:(:(:(

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/pics-bike016.jpg
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[usual suspect]

Man whore!!!

[sbutler]

Man whore!!!

You havent seen me!! I'll be paying them.:lmao:

[WET4URacing]

overtime or stand on the corner , get a wax 1st mite be able to raise a few cents

[msmola2002]

Ask Brett Stevens. He had a HUUUUGUGGGGEE team :D

[jasonbw]

Crap, I can loan you some money when I next get paid in a fortnight, it'll only be $100 but I don't need it back till your ready.. maybe others?

[Turtle]

I'm sure the RATS admins will sponsor you........

[sbutler]

Crap, I can loan you some money when I next get paid in a fortnight, it'll only be $100 but I don't need it back till your ready.. maybe others?

Thanks for the offer Jason bloddy nice of you.:ayyy:

I'd love to be sponsored by the RATs site Turtle.
Can you do some ground work on that one for me? At this stage I'd take anything.:clap:

Wetty: Ive worked myself out of all the overtime..
It would take more than a sack & crack wax to make me look good.
Thousands of dollars worth of major cosmetic re-structor wouldn't even give me a chance of getting picked up!!!:lmao:

[usual suspect]

"Quote: Ive worked myself out of all the overtime..
It would take more than a sack & crack wax to make me look good.
Thousands of dollars worth of major cosmetic re-structor wouldn't even give me a chance of getting picked up!!!"

F%%%%%ck!!

[WET4URacing]

Thanks for the offer Jason bloddy nice of you.:ayyy:

I'd love to be sponsored by the RATs site Turtle.
Can you do some ground work on that one for me? At this stage I'd take anything.:clap:

Wetty: Ive worked myself out of all the overtime..
It would take more than a sack & crack wax to make me look good.
Thousands of dollars worth of major cosmetic re-structor wouldn't even give me a chance of getting picked up!!!:lmao:


sorry i have nothing to cum bak at u with, exept mi bad spelin an punktuatton

[sbutler]

Update..

Got the tripple tree in last night.
Forks are back together & in !!
Braided lines are on & wheel is in.
Rear shock in.
Fairings are in Sydney http://mototech91.com/index.html This guy John Allman sure knows his stuff!!!
I can move it around now.
So all I need to do now is.
Check the rake to see were we are now.
Do some sag tests.
Get the dogbone bush fixed.
Fit the tank & fairings [when they come back, & away we gooooo!!!:dancesmiley:

[clarkey]

Job Well Done well mate, :ayyy:

[sbutler]

Thanks clarkey But Im not finished yet!!:hatter:
Still gotta come up with the entry fee's
which are almost $500 including the Friday practice.:dohsmiley:
But Im in there punching on, to try & make it.
Latest pics for those interested.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/rebuild002.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/rebuild003.jpg

[WET4URacing]

your way ahead of me
i did get some rearsets to fit tho

[Cedric]

your way ahead of me
i did get some rearsets to fit tho

What's that wetty? A YZF750?

[WET4URacing]

yep for a very important client

[racegodr1]

moo!

[SLAC]

your way ahead of me
i did get some rearsets to fit tho

Good luck with that, i did the same and they twisted because of the way they mount.. What are they made of wetty.. The brackets? Alloy what?

[WET4URacing]

Good luck with that, i did the same and they twisted because of the way they mount.. What are they made of wetty.. The brackets? Alloy what?


They are a set of busa (of all things)rearsets.i have had em on the shelf for ever so i put em to good use.. alloy of course. here are some fotos of the finished product.

[SLAC]

They are a set of busa (of all things)rearsets.i have had em on the shelf for ever so i put em to good use.. alloy of course. here are some fotos of the finished product.

Mmmm, so the busa brackets fit behind the frame as per the mounting points. Thats the area we had trouble with, the bracket i made bent when i used the pegs as i should.. It was all tig welded together (PS dad drilled the holes)

[WET4URacing]

Mmmm, so the busa brackets fit behind the frame as per the mounting points. Thats the area we had trouble with, the bracket i made bent when i used the pegs as i should.. It was all tig welded together (PS dad drilled the holes)


after a bit of mod they fit.
the effort was way worth the reward.
you dont have much adjustment with your dads effort. best get him back out in the shed and whip up some more mecano(spelling its bin about 100yrs since i've seen that toy building product)rearsets for you.

[sbutler]

Id be more worried about getting a clutch in it than rearsets!!:confused1:

[WET4URacing]

clutch is in . cover was off to get 1 of them carbon covers made by my boys that has got peoples noses out of joint in the past year

[sbutler]

clutch is in . cover was off to get 1 of them carbon covers made by my boys that has got peoples noses out of joint in the past year

How much to knock one up for me??

[SLAC]

This is the one needed to complete the old girl.. Got pulled up at scruitineering, but got away with it cause it has no oil in it.. I think :confused1:

[WET4URacing]

How much to knock one up for me??


i'll check in the morning, but we need your cover coz we didnt make a mould, not enuf of em to be cost effective. dont forget the other 2 little covers on the end of the crank . i herd someone had a winge about not havin em. i did em coz i dont need the ear ache

[WET4URacing]

This is the one needed to complete the old girl.. Got pulled up at scruitineering, but got away with it cause it has no oil in it.. I think :confused1:


i think its dry . best take it off and check. its FZR yeh?

[sbutler]

I have the crank end covered, So thats sweet. I think the YZF & FZR are the same clutch cover?
Have a look>>
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/rebuild003.jpg

[SLAC]

i think its dry . Best take it off and check. Its fzr yeh?

yzf600

[WET4URacing]

yzf600


oh fark thats how much i know about the old yam. they have a bit diff engine then? 16valve or 20?

forks are conv and brakes are diff to 750????

[SLAC]

oh fark thats how much i know about the old yam. they have a bit diff engine then? 16valve or 20?

forks are conv and brakes are diff to 750????

yeah mate, forks & shock have been done by terry. Some anti squat in the rear shock, that works pretty well too.. 750 have way more grunt than the old 600, different brakes and i think it is a 16 valve... Still managed too round a few 750 & thous though, just those damn pesky aprilla 250's that are hard to out brake

[jasonbw]

just those damn pesky aprilla 250's that are hard to out brake

on the next straight overtake on the right and accidentally bump their kill switch :ayyy:

[SLAC]

on the next straight overtake on the right and accidentally bump their kill switch :ayyy:

mmmmm wonder if i would get in the shit.. Its a good thought

[1down5up]

find the local leb drug dealer and become a part time runner i hear they are looking for drive by shooters at the moment as well guns and wrx supplyed:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: thats 1 way to make over $1000 fast

[sbutler]

Well things are starting to take shape.
John Allman/ Mototech has almost finished the race glass:dancesmiley:

So its only a matter of fitting it on & she's pretty much ready. The entry forms went away on Monday, I just have to pay for the practice day on good Friday, & it away we go!!!:clap:

[WET4URacing]

so the waxing worked?

[sbutler]

so the waxing worked?

No but the bankcard go a hell of a workout!!!:lmao:

[ZXRider]

Will be out there to have a look......How is you mate going with his RGV?

[sbutler]

Will be out there to have a look......How is you mate going with his RGV?


Come up & say hello ZXRider. My buddy doesnt think he's fast enough to cut in racing, so he will probably do a couple of track days to get up to speed.
Im trying to make the Rats day on the 31st, if I have it all done I'll bring him along so he can get some more laps under his belt. He still a bit gun shy when it comes to passing slower riders. But once he learns a little race craft he'll be fine. I'm hoping to get him to the next PCRA meeting at Oran pk.

[sbutler]

UPDATE!!

Just did a check of the rake with all the mods, 24deg!!!!
That's in R1 territory, shortend the wheel base by about 15mm & while we were at it we checked the front & rear ballance.
It WAS 120kgs R. & 80kgs F.
Now its, 107kgs R. & 73kgs F.
So all my ideas have worked out better than I ever hoped...:dancesmiley:
Its still a heavy big lump, but its should handle a whole lot better now. I still have to fit the race glass, & fuel tank. But hay. Im excited!!:clap:

[sbutler]

Ok, Ive just picked up all the body parts from Mototech>>
http://mototech91.com/index.html
What a bloody great job!! That mob really know their stuff. :clap::clap:
Ran into Ivan while I was there. Had a good chat, & what not.
So here we are with some of it fitted up>>
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/bikerebuild014.jpg

Its still gonna be a battle But I think I can get there. Just no testing is gonna be a issue. So it'll be a suck it & see approch on Friday...
I'll get some more pics up when its finished..:ayyy:

[BART]

Looks Sensational :ayyy:

[sbutler]

Im finished!!!!!!!:clap::clap:
Yes Ive done it, its finished. Took it for a run around the block, all is well & felt fine.:dancesmiley:
So in wetty speak,,wadoyathink?????????
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[James]

Think it looks damn nice :ayyy:

[*Oggy*]

You have done well Sir...........

An oldie, but definately a Goodie..........

[sbutler]

Thanks guys, beleive me its been a bit of a slogg. But I really think the bike should turn some heads [all be it old heads] Now its finished im over the moon with it. I hope Im keeping a little bit of our racing history alive. Well we'll see how it goes on the weekend. Should be fine, she fire'd up without a problem. I havent ridden since September last year. So I'll still be rusty. But hay, its all fun isnt it??:dohsmiley:
Who ever buys this thing, if or when Im finished with it, will have something just a little special I think.

[Johnny]

That looks fanbloodytastic sir.. job well done..:clap:

Look forward to seeing it go round and round :ayyy:

[Dunno]

Thanks guys, beleive me its been a bit of a slogg. But I really think the bike should turn some heads [all be it old heads] Now its finished im over the moon with it. I hope Im keeping a little bit of our racing history alive. Well we'll see how it goes on the weekend. Should be fine, she fire'd up without a problem. I havent ridden since September last year. So I'll still be rusty. But hay, its all fun isnt it??:dohsmiley:
Who ever buys this thing, if or when Im finished with it, will have something just a little special I think.

Nice work Steve :mod_smilie_rockwoot mmmm I feel like a cigarette:confused1:

Bit bored now??? Nothing to tinker with???

Head up the road & have a look at the 400 in Mr Bones' garage. Go on mate, you know you want to. It should be enough to keep you busy till Thursday :ayyy:

[WET4URacing]

nice job looks period. what about the belly pan. thort its spost to be enclosed for if it goes bang???

[dazzler]

thats is the Tits mate:clap::clap:

take a bow mate, what a bloody awesome job!!
well done for keep the history alive too!!

[triumph]

bloody nice job done on the bike .

[sbutler]

nice job looks period. what about the belly pan. thort its spost to be enclosed for if it goes bang???

Nar, not for those with EXUP in place, the scrutineers are worried about it filling with oil & turning into a BBQ!! I can see their point.
Plus there is no way of getting one to fit. But its mostly the safety factor they are worried about. If you remove the belly, you dont have to run a catch pan:dohsmiley: How crazy is that???

See how big it would have to be? You have no ground clearance>>>
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/sbutler_bucket/28-9-08.jpg

[WET4URacing]

john has 1 on his. we grafted a R1 belly on

[sbutler]

john has 1 on his. we grafted a R1 belly on

Yeah, completely different fairing would explain that. Johns is a 87/88 model I think.
I have had a look at doing it, but it is a lot of work. My model is only 3 peice. 2 sides & an upper. You cant remove just the belly, & leave the sides.
If you want to run in St George days, eg Rjays series etc. I would have to remove the sides.

Thats why the rule is so silly.
If you run a belly you need a pan.
If you dont run a belly you dont need a pan. :hatter: It just crazy IMO:rules:
If you have a look on the PCRA site there is a zillion posts about that rule.

[WET4URacing]

oh ok. i have a belly insert in my 7 that runs top and sides. i'll stick a foto up 2moro. we are makin a mould off it at the mo. it slips in so when she does go bang you dont fall on your head coz of my shite on the track.

[triumph]

what garage a you in on the weekend steve .

[sbutler]

oh ok. i have a belly insert in my 7 that runs top and sides. i'll stick a foto up 2moro. we are makin a mould off it at the mo. it slips in so when she does go bang you dont fall on your head coz of my shite on the track.

But if you dont have one & it goes bang the result is the same :hatter:
Yeah we'll have another look at it later in the year & you may be able to guide us a little with fit up. No doubt it probably can be done. But at the moment Im happy with the scrutineers findings.

[sbutler]

what garage a you in on the weekend steve .

Carport 16.
Didnt want a garage this year, to much noise for me. I must be betting old or something.:lmao:

[triumph]

Carport 16.
Didnt want a garage this year, to much noise for me. I must be betting old or something.:lmao: yeh aint we all .

[SLAC]

oh ok. i have a belly insert in my 7 that runs top and sides. i'll stick a foto up 2moro. we are makin a mould off it at the mo. it slips in so when she does go bang you dont fall on your head coz of my shite on the track.

Thats interesting, do the ASBK guys run similar? How does it hold in, dont rattle around does it
Save a shit load of cleaning too..

[clarkey]

Looks great Steve, Job well done and good luck for the weekend:ayyy:

[SLAC]

Nar, not for those with EXUP in place, the scrutineers are worried about it filling with oil & turning into a BBQ!! I can see their point.
Plus there is no way of getting one to fit. But its mostly the safety factor they are worried about.

Why dont you get rid of it? Most that raced got rid of them didnt they?
Same as the early R1's i thought most of them got rid of them and replaced with a full system..
By the way bike looks very much period now, good job

[sbutler]

Why dont you get rid of it? Most that raced got rid of them didnt they?
Same as the early R1's i thought most of them got rid of them and replaced with a full system..
By the way bike looks very much period now, good job

I suppose I could go for a full system. But the torque that thing produces if massive, & it not lacking in the HP department either, and thats how I like it. So I figure [if it aint broke, dont fix it] If I fluff a corner, It will just pull you up to speed without fuss. Im a lazy old coot & i'd rather let the torque/bike do the work, & i'll just sit there.. If you see what Im getting at?:lmao:

[sbutler]

Thats interesting, do the ASBK guys run similar? How does it hold in, dont rattle around does it
Save a shit load of cleaning too..


If they are running fairings yes they must have a catch pan.
Its just a really strange rule. If you run a naked bike, you dont have to run a catch pan. So if the motor blows you can spew onto the track.:hatter:

But if you run a fairing, you have to fun a catch pan? So if the motor blows it catchers the oil.

So my reading is>
Its ok to spew oil on the track as long as you havent got a fairing???:dohsmiley:

But if you run a fairing, Dont you drop any oil or you busted!:hatter:

[SLAC]

Yeah it is a strange rule, but i guess from MA point is if they can contain it within the confines of a fairing then why not as it will save a heap of hassells.. Not much you can do if it is a naked though, as you need to keep the bike as OEM as possible to be eligible to race..

[WET4URacing]

naked bikes wear belly pans in FX. the bennelli that won last year had 1. even back when i raced my ZRX the other 1 on the grid had 1 on. i didnt but i should have i spose.

[jasonbw]

So in full enclosed bellypans's do you normally make a catch pan (lasagne tray size) or allow the oil/liquid to slosh around the full length? the rules only say it has to hold a certain amount of liquid, I'm wondering if I should "dam" both ends or make a "tray" or leave it as is..

[WET4URacing]

you are dammed both ends. your fairing is legal . spost to hold 3 litres of fluid.

[jasonbw]

cool!!!

[sbutler]

Well Im as ready as Im ever gonna be just getting loaded up now. Heading down tomorrow. I took the bike out for a 8km run today & its was great. All that lees weight you can feel its better. Plus the geometey[spelling] changes. I has a light more sensitive feel about it. The suspsnsion is so not a road bike now. It was bloody harsh & even got a little head shake when I hit some bumps mid corner.[Never did that before] So I think It'll have the steering damper on all the time now. It was gonna give it a run without it to see what happens. But Ive scrapped that idea.
Wish me luck guys, there's no turning back now!!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t95/te50t3/bikerebuildfinished011-1.jpg
I know I look pretty tired, because I AM!!

[Cedric]

That looks phenomenal! Top work!:ayyy: