Don't Drop The Soap

[VINNIE]

This makes you think twice about your own actions:hatter:


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24708311-5006009,00.html

[SIX36]

If he were a lead foot he'd either be stuck in first on not going far jamming on the rear brake...

Oh well pay the price for your own actions...wrong place wrong time.

[Johnny]

Makes sence to me, the junkie behind my place is still out on the streets doing bag snatches, break enters, dealing, bullying older people, etc etc, I guess he a hasnt the REAL crime to add to all that, speeding...


Fuck we live in a Nanny state !

[Captain]

FARK .... jail for 4 months.

[Alex.]

The article didn't mention whether he had previous offences or that was his first.

Either way, 4 months is pretty heavy.

[Dr freedom]

The RTA needs to build its own prisons.

Im surprised they havnt already done it actually.

[Johnny]

The joke of a system aside, this also shows a wide misconception in technology.

244ks p/h past a hair dryer, number plate wouldve flashed by too quick for the human eye to make out, but didnt escape the technology fitted to vehicles now.They can make out your rego number by registration label now.. Tell if your unlicenced, unregistered just by passing in opposite direction.. Just a couple of years ago, they could not get a reading on your plate untill it was literally up your arse, but now ????
I guess it all proves that revenue raising is far more important than anything else..

:confused:

[Kat00]

I was wondering how the got the plate......at night 244kph, no way they would have read it. They must be pretty good cameras in those cars. :hatter:

[Mr Bones]

Crazy to think they could grab your number as you went by goin that quick. Bloody technology! :warning:

[drukenhard]

all the more reason not to have a plate on!

Why do we pay rego anyway, they make enough money off fines in this state to fund any road repair you could name yet we have to use the shit roads and when someone comes unstuck they always blame the driver/rider and add some more offences they can raise money off to NOT fix things!

People used to only have to drive/ride at 60 instead of 50 at the slowest, and vehicle technology has come so far but they have to drop speed limits everywhere.


Increase training, decrease penalisation.

Make it so all the useless drivers aren't allowed to drive anyway and the roads will be safer, fix the roads and they will be safer.....what does lowing speed limits do?....Piss people off as they are stuck in traffic congestion, instigate road rage because people are delayed even more as they come off a motorway and the traffic can't even get many cars through lights because they are coming in fast on the motor ways and getting stuck in the traffic that is partially caused by the reduction in speed limits on local streets/school zones and also partially because the RTA lets too many incompetent people hold licences which adds to congestion (especially when they randomly stack it, or lock it up causing someone else to stack)


The system needs to be scrapped and started again with the right intentions in mind.....ensuring people can get to where the need to safely (not "let's see how many toll roads we can get you to pay for instead of using our shit infrastructure")
:cursing:

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[oz r1]

all the more reason not to have a plate on!

Why do we pay rego anyway, they make enough money off fines in this state to fund any road repair you could name yet we have to use the shit roads and when someone comes unstuck they always blame the driver/rider and add some more offences they can raise money off to NOT fix things!

People used to only have to drive/ride at 60 instead of 50 at the slowest, and vehicle technology has come so far but they have to drop speed limits everywhere.


Increase training, decrease penalisation.

Make it so all the useless drivers aren't allowed to drive anyway and the roads will be safer, fix the roads and they will be safer.....what does lowing speed limits do?....Piss people off as they are stuck in traffic congestion, instigate road rage because people are delayed even more as they come off a motorway and the traffic can't even get many cars through lights because they are coming in fast on the motor ways and getting stuck in the traffic that is partially caused by the reduction in speed limits on local streets/school zones and also partially because the RTA lets too many incompetent people hold licences which adds to congestion (especially when they randomly stack it, or lock it up causing someone else to stack)


The system needs to be scrapped and started again with the right intentions in mind.....ensuring people can get to where the need to safely (not "let's see how many toll roads we can get you to pay for instead of using our shit infrastructure")
:cursing:

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:confused1:

[stetto]

Bet he wishes he went faster. This new tech sucks

[thumpn]

thats fucked!

[heretic]

244kmh and they managed to read his plate wow! Still sucks for him going to jail, why couldnt they just revoke his license for a couple of years.

[wade193]

Unable to catch him, so they met up with him at his house where he admitted to dangerous driving????????? :confused1:
Just deny it or dispute the speed. I would.

[Kat00]

Ive been stitched up by the bastards before.....

Come and admitt to this and we will let you go for that......OK.....

Bastards had written both fines even before I turned up....They just wanted admission to make the case tighter in case I fought it.

They could catch me red handed these days and I'd say....It wasn't me sir.

[_chado77]

and now the precedents been set look out..wont take long for prosecutors to start using that as a basis for the punishment recommendations..

:storm:

surely the blokes going to appeal it:ayyy:

[VINNIE]

and now the precedents been set look out..wont take long for prosecutors to start using that as a basis for the punishment recommendations..

:storm:

surely the blokes going to appeal it:ayyy:

My thoughts exactly :(

[OutOfControl]

i wonder if they'll give his license back after the 4 months in lock up

[Dr freedom]

The joke of a system aside, this also shows a wide misconception in technology.

244ks p/h past a hair dryer, number plate wouldve flashed by too quick for the human eye to make out, but didnt escape the technology fitted to vehicles now.They can make out your rego number by registration label now.. Tell if your unlicenced, unregistered just by passing in opposite direction.. Just a couple of years ago, they could not get a reading on your plate untill it was literally up your arse, but now ????
I guess it all proves that revenue raising is far more important than anything else..

:confused:
They tested this on Mythbusters & proved the cameras can catch you at high speeds.
They then also proved that all the photo blockers you can buy & spray on your plates dont work either.

[Dr freedom]

Ive been stitched up by the bastards before.....

Come and admitt to this and we will let you go for that......OK.....

Bastards had written both fines even before I turned up....They just wanted admission to make the case tighter in case I fought it.

They could catch me red handed these days and I'd say....It wasn't me sir.
I was caught in the car a few years ago by a sarge in a stationwagon, who had speed checked me doing 120 in an 80 zone (Southern Cross Drive)
He didnt have a radar, hence the speed checking. He wasnt a happy chappy.. I knew he was going to ticket me up regardless, he claimed I was 25 & over, I admitted to only doing 90 in the 80 zone lol

He was not happy .. I received a fine for only 10 over & 2 points in the post, much better than his suggestion of a few hundred dollars more & an extra point lol

Reverse psychology has always been my friend.

[zenodamper]

Something seems to not compute. I mean, i know the system is obviously imperfect in so many ways; but if you were explaining to some being whom had just arrived on Earth as to what a court is, surely the word "justice" should enter into the description? So let's boil all this down:

The magistrate knows lots of young people speed - the magistrate decides that this young person should pay for what all the others have done too (sounds "just" don't it NOT?) - the magistrate sets penalty which he knows to be "heavy" - heavy to be a euphemism for unjust.... {job done, & the punters accept}

There used to ba a saying up on a plaque in Temple EC4; "the law exists because justice doesn't" - perhaps we could just reverse the keywords now to: "justice can't exist because the law does"

Jail, yeah right; that's the answer to everything innit?! - I wonder if the magistrate smacks his pets and threatens his wife arbitrarily? :lmao:

http://www.zionism-israel.com/Iran_gay.jpg

No Further Education in hanging tho'....

[Johnny]

"justice can't exist because the law does" ..
:clap::clap::clap:

[_chado77]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/_chado77/iylo95go9.jpg

here we go guys..the internet provdes again:lmao:

[zenodamper]

Aye it does - recently in Lidcombe we have had stabbings; bludgeonings with iron long heavy things and shootings - yet everyday outside my orifice will be some very proud-peacock HWY having gotten someone on the stretch along Station road (which is a 60) for 10 or 15 over - no junctions there, just railway and graveyard... or the coppers that stop on pedestrian crossings and hold up traffic whilst they chat with their compadres - the list of "respect" instances goes on and on - party on Garth! :lmao:

Anyways + PS:stirthepot:

[squash]

Another example of our corrupt justice system.

[CJ Burns Esq]

so check this out;

The proportion of people handed a prison term after being found guilty in the local courts was up 0.1 per cent, to 6.9 per cent.
House burglaries, car theft and drug dealing or trafficking were the charges which saw the most people convicted in local courts sent to prison.
Dr Weatherburn said the overall conviction rate was also high, with 87 per cent of all people appearing in the local courts being found - or pleading - guilty.
http://news.smh.com.au/national/more...0902-47w6.html

Or bash someone with a beer bottle and ahve your pic taken doing it and walk?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/....html?from=rss

So you go out to intentionally steal, or belt someone and after you plead guilty you have a less than one in 14 chance of getting a jail sentence. (100/6.9)
Have a bit of fun speeding and you go to jail for 4 to 8 months?
Which part of this is wrong?
I have had my tools of trade stolen 4 times at total cost of $15,000, 5 cars stolen over the past 20 years and my property broken into twice with no result from plod or the courts but if I speed, I will go to jail. Time to chuck these f u c k w i t s out on their ears..................

and Zeno's agrument +1, Justice does not exist because of wanker PC Liberals, er I mean because the law does n stuff

[gazujc]

If you want to read a balanced view of the situation then try this one (and by all emans add comments): http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24711189-5007146,00.html


NOW look, let's not get the wrong end of a very dangerous "stick" - that fellow caught on a police radar travelling at 244km/h on his motorbike in New South Wales was behaving like a lunatic.

It's a miracle he was caught before he was involved in an accident; that sort of speed on any public road is insanely dangerous.

But here's another set of facts which may suggest to some minds that the four-month prison term to which Sean Michael Wynne was sentenced when he appeared in Newcastle Local Court on Tuesday might have been somewhat extreme.

First, Wynne pleaded guilty. When the police turned up at his house, he put up his hands, offering the admittedly dumb excuse that he'd had "a bad day at work" and had "opened it up" on the way home.

Second, his driving record - while not without blemish - is not suggestive of an irredeemable disregard for the traffic code. And third, he was free in the community for more than a month since his offence, during which time he did not come to further police notice.

But now, Wynne, 25, is facing the prospect of four months jail, there to repent at leisure of his moment of motorbike madness after magistrate Michael Morahan said it was "imperative" the court set an example that such behaviour was unacceptable.
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And quite so. That is a most important sentencing principle for judges and magistrates to bear in mind. However, the idea of retributive justice should surely also embody some sort of notion of "the punishment fitting the crime". Is imprisonment really a suitable penalty for this man's misconduct?

Confiscate his bike, suspend his licence, fine him. But is there not a better way to drive home the road safety message?

Why not "sentence" such offenders to a form of community service involving support for road accident victims and their families. Perhaps they could be made to work weekends as volunteers for the Ambulance Service. Perhaps they could be made to accompany traffic branch police to fatal road accidents and be involved in the ghastly business of cleaning up the mess.

For what is Wynne likely to learn in jail? Prisons breed prisoners. Let's hope Wynne is just smart enough to understand all the bright ideas he'll hear in jail on how to earn easy money are illusory.

Jail those who kill others through their reckless disregard for the road rules. And look, it's more to do with luck than judgment that Wynne got home without coming to grief. But the fact is, he killed no one. What he's been given is a four-month jail term for being an idiot.

When mid-range and high range drink-drivers routinely "escape" with licence suspensions, some may think Wynne's sentence disproportionate.







Garry

[VINNIE]

If you want to read a balanced view of the situation then try this one (and by all emans add comments): http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24711189-5007146,00.html


NOW look, let's not get the wrong end of a very dangerous "stick" - that fellow caught on a police radar travelling at 244km/h on his motorbike in New South Wales was behaving like a lunatic.

It's a miracle he was caught before he was involved in an accident; that sort of speed on any public road is insanely dangerous.

But here's another set of facts which may suggest to some minds that the four-month prison term to which Sean Michael Wynne was sentenced when he appeared in Newcastle Local Court on Tuesday might have been somewhat extreme.

First, Wynne pleaded guilty. When the police turned up at his house, he put up his hands, offering the admittedly dumb excuse that he'd had "a bad day at work" and had "opened it up" on the way home.

Second, his driving record - while not without blemish - is not suggestive of an irredeemable disregard for the traffic code. And third, he was free in the community for more than a month since his offence, during which time he did not come to further police notice.

But now, Wynne, 25, is facing the prospect of four months jail, there to repent at leisure of his moment of motorbike madness after magistrate Michael Morahan said it was "imperative" the court set an example that such behaviour was unacceptable.
Related Coverage

And quite so. That is a most important sentencing principle for judges and magistrates to bear in mind. However, the idea of retributive justice should surely also embody some sort of notion of "the punishment fitting the crime". Is imprisonment really a suitable penalty for this man's misconduct?

Confiscate his bike, suspend his licence, fine him. But is there not a better way to drive home the road safety message?

Why not "sentence" such offenders to a form of community service involving support for road accident victims and their families. Perhaps they could be made to work weekends as volunteers for the Ambulance Service. Perhaps they could be made to accompany traffic branch police to fatal road accidents and be involved in the ghastly business of cleaning up the mess.

For what is Wynne likely to learn in jail? Prisons breed prisoners. Let's hope Wynne is just smart enough to understand all the bright ideas he'll hear in jail on how to earn easy money are illusory.

Jail those who kill others through their reckless disregard for the road rules. And look, it's more to do with luck than judgment that Wynne got home without coming to grief. But the fact is, he killed no one. What he's been given is a four-month jail term for being an idiot.

When mid-range and high range drink-drivers routinely "escape" with licence suspensions, some may think Wynne's sentence disproportionate.







Garry

This was my comment to this article

Well writen Roger, you also have take into account that we, the taxpayer, will paying for this fellow to sit around for four months doing SFA.I agree with the idea of getting him to do community service and he should be working with people affected by the road toll.That way he will learn from his actions.Putting the young bloke in prison will only stuff up this fella's life for life, all this because he was an idiot.This fellow will lose his job,his bike,his money and more that likely never get back to were he was before he went to jail.We all make mistakes and if the book was throwen at you for everytime you make a fool of yourself, then we need to build a lot more prisons. The other thing we need to remember is there are other people (A radio station owner caught doing 200+ in his Bently) that have gotten away with alot more with nothing more that a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: VINNIE of Greystanes 11:30am today
Comment 19 of 33

[Falco]

it was "imperative" the court set an example that such behaviour was unacceptable.

It was also imperative that John Singelton walks free cause he has a Bently and a shit load of money.
Arseholes the lot of em :mod_smilie_bj:.

[Captain]

Justice is blind hey?

[zenodamper]

Justice is blind hey?

Exactly why we think/discern/consider/rationalise. Do things. Differ from rest of animal kingdom etc... does require effort of course; but what is a life without it? :lmao: (i.e. we should use our gifts to achieve goals)

[Kat00]

This was my comment to this article

Well writen Roger, you also have take into account that we, the taxpayer, will paying for this fellow to sit around for four months doing SFA.I agree with the idea of getting him to do community service and he should be working with people affected by the road toll.That way he will learn from his actions.Putting the young bloke in prison will only stuff up this fella's life for life, all this because he was an idiot.This fellow will lose his job,his bike,his money and more that likely never get back to were he was before he went to jail.We all make mistakes and if the book was throwen at you for everytime you make a fool of yourself, then we need to build a lot more prisons. The other thing we need to remember is there are other people (A radio station owner caught doing 200+ in his Bently) that have gotten away with alot more with nothing more that a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: VINNIE of Greystanes 11:30am today
Comment 19 of 33


How many posts do you have on news.com now Vinnie :lmao:

[quickchick]

"A MOTORCYCLIST clocked at 244km/h"

You better get a lawyer son, you better get a real good one .....

[thumpn]

I fought the law and the.. Law won..

[VINNIE]

How many posts do you have on news.com now Vinnie :lmao:

a total of three now...this one, one where i hosed a tree hugger and i commented on when the news broke that Sophie Monk was a dead root :lmao:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,24495171-5001021,00.html


They never did print what i wrote :confused1:

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[_chado77]

Ms monks a dud:hatter:..i'll throw a leg over and to confirm it anyday..i wont whinge humping a hot matteress:spank::spank::mod_smilie_hitit::)


but seriously.. bit of a joke. i cant help thinking what the do gooders will be doing soon. right now 240km is jailable(previous charges withstanding), next 230 will be jail time (cause whats 10k's and the governments brain washing 'No Speeding safe' mentality)and then 220 and so on..whats to stop it dwindling down to 30k's over in the coming years..awesome, free 4 months holidays for all: eek:

[Captain]

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3351/0629934400al1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I don't care, she can just lay there if she wants :2191:

[CJ Burns Esq]

No dud roots for me, rather have a wank FFS.

As for jailing the idiots........
If we did that the NSW Government and half the Public Circus would be in jail.
Oh and no coppers yeah!

[dazzler]

imagine that....... god i love imagining.....

if just over half of N.S.W got done excessive speeding.... just over half of nsw in jail having a rest from paying taxes for four months maybe then they would rethink!! the almighty uproar would be worthy of the david letterman show

gotta stop imagining

[PhilJ]

The word here in Newcastle was that this bloke was very unlucky. He was spotted before the offence by a cop who was a bike enthusast. He was doing a legal speed at the time. The cop admired the bike and noted his plate and no more. Our Hero thinking he was unlikely to come across another policeman at 1am, gave it a handful on one of the few places you might entertain doing that sort of speed safely (fenced Freeway).

Unfortunately for him, he's then gone through a speed trap at warp speed (at a spot where the local highway patrol is known to hide). This cop reports the offence over the radio, but not the number plate (who can read a plate at that speed), however the first cop hears the chatter... and gives the second cop the plate. Our Hero is done.

Mind you, doing time for this (speeding on a deserted freeway) is an absolute travesty. I mean really, the number of people who commit violent crimes, or steal and get good behaviour bonds... Just another victory for the safety nazis!!

[drukenhard]

Not a victory for them.....a reason for us to start creating armies to overthrow the dictators that have destroyed this country!

The Police are a weapon the politicians use to suppress the public, the pollies are now going ahead with this "no clean feed" thing to control what we see on the internet (the last place where some element of free speech exists) and today (I think) a judge did someone for child pornography because he had a cartoon of the bart & lisa simpson having sex on his mobile!

When will this bullshit end?

When we collectively acquire the nuts to stop them!

[Captain]

Invictus ...