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Captain
15-11-2008, 07:51 AM
Why You Need Proper Motorcycle Riding Gloves

And why they need to fit properly

You hear the same excuses all the time:
"I'm not planning on crashing."
"I don't ride to fall."
"I ride under control at all times."


There's a common proverb that perfectly explains why you should wear ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time): "It's why they're called 'accidents,' not 'on purposes.'" No one plans on falling off. But if you're heading to the supermarket with the intent of buying a particular item, why do you go there with more than the exact amount of money for that item in your pocket?

A set of good motorcycle-oriented riding gloves should be just as integral to your daily riding gear as a quality helmet. Your hands are your body's most exposed yet fragile and sensitive extremities when you ride. And if you do fall, nine times out of ten the one part of your body that will surely come in contact with the pavement at one point or another will be your hands. We depend on our hands almost 99 percent of the time to perform daily tasks-so why would you want to leave them exposed and unprotected?

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Here's the reason having a properly adjusted wrist strap is important. Note the glove lying in the middle of the track while track personnel attend to the injured rider.

Note that we said "motorcycle-oriented riding gloves." Why not the rancher's style gloves you often see motorcycle police officers wearing? Ranch hands aren't expected to impact the tarmac and then drag across it at speed. Motorcyclists require a certain amount of specialized protection; they need to withstand both impact and abrasion, because a crash on the pavement often involves a hard initial hit followed by a long slide until you come to a stop. The top motorcycle-apparel brands that are heavily involved in racing have learned over the years from their sponsored riders exactly where and how much protection is needed, and advancing technology has enabled the breed to improve by leaps and bounds over where it was even 10 years ago.

That protection needs to stay in place in order to be effective, and that's where other aspects of motorcycle-specific design come into play. Most motorcycle gloves now come equipped with an adjustable wrist strap that keep them from sliding off your hand no matter how hard you pull. We've seen more than a few instances in the past of gloves coming off in a crash (for instance, the wild flinging of arms and legs from tumbling, or sliding on the ground feet first), and the top brands discovered long ago that a zippered or hook-and-loop-adjustable gauntlet wasn't enough to keep the glove on the rider's hand where it would do the most good.

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Here's reason number one that you should wear gloves. Hands and fingers are not only fragile, but injuries they sustain are far more painful than in other parts of your body.

Another area that is commonly overlooked is proper fit. All too often we see riders with gloves that are a loose-fitting "close enough" size, with baggy fingertips and bunching palms/fingers. There's a reason the adage "fits like a glove" was coined. In order to receive all the benefits offered by a modern riding glove, it needs to fit your hand properly (it should be noted that a couple of gloves we tried for this buyer's guide that were "close" in fit did not have enough adjustment in the wrist strap to prevent the glove coming off). Skillfully piloting a sportbike requires quick, unhindered and sensitive access to the controls, and an ill-fitting pair of gloves can be more of an impediment than you might think.

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Wearing an ill-fitting glove can cause numerous problems with proper control operation, and while they may not be major issues, they can be enough to hinder you when you need control most. Although this is a slightly exaggerated example, note how the excessive length of the fingertips causes them to catch momentarily on the brake lever as the rider lifts them to operate the brake. This can not only be annoying but can also delay you that split second necessary to avoid a dangerous situation.

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Make sure any glove you use has a wrist strap that can adjust snugly enough to keep the glove from coming off your hand. You'd be surprised how easily a glove can fall off in a crash.


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I have recently bought a set of Alpinestar GPpro, which fit well, have two straps (one at the wrist, a larger one further up). They have lots of plastic reinforcements, but not so mucn padding as others. They also have the ring-little fingers stiched together, which I expected to be awkward to use but I don't even notice it ...

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Alpinestars GP PRO
Price $199.95
The next step down from the GP Tech, the newer GP Pro glove from Alpinestars has many of the same features as its more expensive brother, such as the polyurethane plastic hard armor for the knuckles and wrist and the third/fourth-finger bridge. However, the overall amount of armor in the GP Pro is toned down just a bit; for instance, the knuckle armor is a tad smaller, and the finger armor is smaller and slightly different from the prominent pieces on the GP Tech. The plastic wrist cuff is also a bit smaller and shorter, and the heel padding is designed differently.

Ironically, many testers felt that the GP Pro's toned-down armor helped it feel more comfortable than the comparatively tanklike GP Tech. Overall flexibility and finger dexterity are better with less sense of bulk, yet you still feel well protected in the GP Pros. Fit for all sizes surprisingly was also improved, with fewer complaints about fingers being too long. As you'd expect, quality and attention to detail are very evident with the GP Pro as well.

Kat00
15-11-2008, 08:29 AM
Ive got some of GP Pros. They were a bit small when I got them but they stretch and mold
to your hand and do indeed fit like a glove.
Can't wear winter gloves, can't feel a thing wearing them.

DiZ
15-11-2008, 08:56 AM
I got a pair of Rjays 09 Bandit Gloves, they aren't bad but now I feel like I want something a bit better. They are a little on the cheap side.

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usual suspect
15-11-2008, 09:03 AM
I had the GP Pro's aswell and sold them, didnt like them at all, made the inside of my thumb numb, got some nice fitting AGV gloves that give me plenty of feel, the GP's are a very nice glove for protection though.

Captain
15-11-2008, 09:18 AM
Some more gloves. I would have liked some artificial abrasion test, perhaps a jig set up above a belt sander which slams the gloves and twists and abrases them for a few seconds :confused1::

AGV Sport GPR
Price $119.95

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Utilizing premium Japanese leather on the top half of its construction along with deerskin on the palm, AGV Sport's GPR glove features laminated metal-mesh hard armor with foam backing over the knuckles and finger joints. An extended gauntlet, rubber vents in the several finger joints, carbon-textured leather covering foam padding in high-impact areas, and the usual hook-and-loop-fastened wrist strap and gauntlet flap head the list of additional features.

Although fairly comfortable with precurved fingers, all of our testers noted fitment problems with the GPR, with most of the smaller sizes feeling overly loose in the fingers and palm area. Conversely, large-size hands tended to feel too tight in the fingers. Quality ratings suffered due to small-detail problems; for instance, one pair of gloves' rubber finger vents had no screen in them, with the liner popping up out of the vent. Overall protection seems adequate in most areas of the glove.

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Alpinestars GP Tech
Price $239.95

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The top-of-the-line model from Alpinestars, the GP Tech boasts numerous features that would be too long to list here. Highlights include polyurethane plastic hard armor for the knuckles, fingers and wrist; kangaroo-leather palms reinforced with Pittards leather in the fingers plus Pittards abrasion-resistant Armor-Tan leather and Kevlar knit panels in critical areas on top of the glove; a perforated top panel and cuff and ventilated finger sidewalls; plus the company's patented third/fourth-finger bridge to prevent the "finger roll" that results in injury and potential seam bursting.

Overall fit was deemed very good by most testers, although some of the small-size hands thought the fingers were too long. As you'd expect from a $200-plus glove, quality and attention to detail are present in all areas of the GP Tech's construction. Precurved fingers help with comfort, although many testers opined that the abundance of armor atop the glove restricted movement a bit and felt a little cumbersome. There is no doubting the protective capabilities of the GP Tech, and while the third/fourth-finger bridge is a safety concept used in several companies' top-shelf gloves, a couple of testers disliked having the fingers tied together on the clutch hand.


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Cortech Scarab R.R.
Price $79.99

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The Scarab R.R. uses cowhide leather for the majority of its construction, with the exception of goatskin in the palm area. Molded titanium/carbon armor panels are employed for the knuckles, fingers and wrist, and Schoeller Keprotec fabric gives flexibility to the finger sidepanels. A "Dry Skin" version of the Keprotec fabric backed by a titanium/carbon insert is used in the heel of the palm for impact protection, and a soft, brushed-polyester liner aids comfort by wicking moisture away from the skin. The same style of 360-degree, full-circumference wrist-closure strap with hook-and-loop fastener as the Adrenaline keeps the Scarab in place.

A step down the food chain on the Cortech glove lineup, the Scarab R.R.'s ratings from all our testers tended to reflect that position. Fit was a bit loose in the fingers with all sizes, and the smaller-size hands had a hard time finding a fit that wasn't either too tight or too loose overall. Some testers said they could feel the finger seams when grasping the bars, while others complained of bunching in the palm, which hurt the comfort ratings.


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AXO KKR-4
Price $129.99

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Although the brand is not widely known in the pavement sector, AXO has been in business for 30 years as one of the major market leaders in the off-road world, designing and manufacturing protective apparel. The KKR-4 glove is constructed of premium cowhide leather, with carbon-fiber knuckle and finger inserts and Kevlar reinforcement layers in the palm for impact protection. Precurved fingers provide comfort, while a Kevlar inner liner and additional reinforcement layers on the side of the palm assist in abrasion resistance. A double overlapping gauntlet-closure system works with the wrist strap to ensure the glove stays on.

The KKR-4 has an abundance of padding and armor in seemingly every conceivable spot, giving an impression of excellent protection, yet the glove is surprisingly supple and offers good control feel. Overall quality and attention to detail are very good, with clean stitching and stout construction. Comfort and fit were rated highly by all sizes of testers, with the exception that the little-finger armor creates noticeable discomfort when grasping the bar.


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Cortech Adrenaline
Price $99.99

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Cortech's Adrenaline glove uses goatskin for the back portion of the glove and kangaroo skin for the palm and grip area of the fingers. Injection-molded polyurethane plastic armor protects the knuckles, while thermoplastic rubber is utilized to shield the fingers and gauntlet area. The palm and finger tailoring is precurved to improve comfort and dexterity, with a soft brushed-fleece liner adding to the cozy feel. An antislip silicone panel assists grip in the palm, and the dual-cuff gauntlet plus 360-degree, full-circumference wrist-closure strap assure that the glove stays put in the event of a fall.

For a midpriced glove, the Adrenaline scored high in all categories with nearly every tester, with excellent comfort heading the list. All of our different-sized testers reported superb fit as well, with only the extralarge size noting a slight tightness in the palm and knuckles. Some of our staff have extensive experience with the Adrenaline and note that they tend to stretch with time, so you might want to try your normal size even if it feels a little snug. Overall quality and construction are very good, especially for a glove at this Price point.


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Dainese Full Metal Racer
Price $299.00

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Dainese has a long and storied reputation in Grand Prix roadacing, and the Full Metal Racer glove reflects the latest development input from two of the world's top MotoGP racers: the omnipotent Valentino Rossi and multitime world champion Dani Pedrosa. Constructed from high-quality cowhide leather, the Full Metal Racer features new-design titanium knuckle/back-of-hand protection, along with carbon/Kevlar armor throughout the fingers and rest of the hand. Soft armor inserts and a goatskin reinforcement layer protect the palm, while a Kevlar heat-resistant lining on the back of the hand shields that area. A unique Distortion Control System on the little finger prevents digit rollover and accompanying twisting injuries.

The Full Metal Racer is easily the most expensive glove in this group, but it was also the only glove that universally scored top marks across the board. Fit and comfort were both rated very highly in all sizes, with unrivaled feel at the controls, yet there is protection in all the right areas without being overdone. Superb overall finish and quality are evident everywhere, and the glove is easily the lightest in this group-it's pretty obvious that you get what you pay for with this one.



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Dainese Hellracer
Price $139.00

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Constructed from premium cowhide leather with a Kevlar fabric liner, the Hellracer has composite multilayer Kevlar/carbon-fiber inserts on the knuckles and fingers for impact protection, along with multiple thermoplastic resin and carbon inserts backed by foam padding in other areas. Goatskin palm reinforcement ensures abrasion resistance, while elastic inserts allow freedom of movement in the most mobile portions of the hand. A hook-and-loop-fastened wrist strap and cuff flap ensure that the Hellracer stays on the rider's hand.

The Hellracer is a definite step down from the Full Metal Racer, with fewer protective features and a perceptible drop in tailoring detail. Some testers felt the ring and little fingers to be a little stiff, with the seams becoming somewhat obtrusive when grasping the bars, while others thought the fingers were a bit too long in their sizing. For the most part, however, overall comfort scored well. Build quality certainly isn't up to par with the Full Metal Racer, with some seams and other portions of the Hellracer not reflecting the same attention to detail-although considering the Price difference, that could be expected.


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Joe Rocket Sonic
Price $59.99

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An entry-level sport-riding glove, the Joe Rocket Sonic utilizes drum-dyed leather construction throughout. A molded plastic knuckle protector with gel padding handles impact protection up top, while high-density padding on the fingers, cuff and wrist takes care of the rest. Double layers of leather are attached to the grip area of the palm as well as the heel and side of the hand and little finger. There is no wrist strap, although the gauntlet cuff has a double closure system. The edge of the articulating portion of the glove where the knuckle protection is mounted is lined with reflective material for nighttime safety.

While all our testers were impressed with the Speedmaster 7.0 glove, no one was that impressed with the Sonic. Fit and tailoring were very loose and flimsy, and nearly all testers had issues with the inner seams on the fingers causing discomfort. The absence of a wrist strap is a major safety omission in our opinion (especially with the loose fit), and every tester bemoaned the lack of additional protection. Overall quality is also pretty far down the scale, with a couple of unfinished trims and rough seams visible.



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Joe Rocket Speedmaster 7.0
Price $159.99

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The latest iteration of Joe Rocket's Speedmaster glove, the Speedmaster 7.0 adds yet another to the growing legion of kangaroo-leather converts, placing the 'roo leather in the palm and grip area of the fingers with conventional cowhide leather on the back. Injection-molded plastic shells for the knuckles, back of the hand, fingers, thumb and gauntlet provide impact protection, along with high-density foam padding on the fingers, cuff and wrist. A heat- and abrasion-resistant Kevlar fabric liner shields the back of the hand and fingers, while the unique double-cuff gauntlet closure and wrist strap keep the glove in place.

The Speedmaster 7.0 won high marks from nearly all testers for fit and comfort. Control feel through the kangaroo-leather palm is excellent, and the split knuckle armor articulates with the hand nicely when gripping the bars. Some testers were wishing for a bit more protection on the side of the hand and little finger, and the double-cuff gauntlet made the glove labor-intensive to put on. Overall build quality is very good (much better than in years past with Joe Rocket gloves) with clean stitching and almost no rough spots.



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Icon Merc Long
Price $100.00

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The Icon Merc Long glove has a cowhide-leather construction throughout, with a reinforced goatskin palm for abrasion resistance. A molded carbon-fiber shell protects the knuckles, and the articulated design allows freedom of movement without the shell binding on the rider's skin. Foam padding inserts protect the fingers, heel of the palm and majority of the glove's long gauntlet. Silicone inserts in the palm assist with grip, and a hook-and-loop wrist strap ensures retention in case of a fall.

Comfort ratings with the Merc Long were middle-of-the-road, with many testers stating that the seams in the fingers were a bit obtrusive and irritating. While bigger hands didn't have a problem with a snug fit, smaller hands found the fingers a little too long and the fit generally loose overall. Although offering a feeling of decent protection, the Merc Longs are definitely on the big and bulky side, especially for those with smaller hands. Quality ratings were very good for the most part, belying the Merc Long's inexpensive price.



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Kushitani GPR 5
Price $235.00

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Yet another proponent of kangaroo leather in motorcycle gloves, the Kushitani GPR 5 sports the soft but strong material in the palm and grip areas of the fingers, while the rest of the glove is made from the company's own incredibly supple leather. Knuckle and finger protection is provided by Kushitani's proprietary K-Foam padding, with a redesigned Action Pleat System over the knuckles that (plus a Kevlar knit liner) provides flexible yet significant impact protection without hard armor. Zylon fiber panels (Zylon is the company's self-developed fiber, claimed to be seven times stronger than Kevlar) on the ring and little fingers provide additional abrasion protection, along with an extralong gauntlet over the wrist.

The GPR 5 garnered high ratings in all categories with virtually all our testers. Fit and comfort were rated superb in all sizes, with excellent control feel and flexibility. Despite the lack of hard armor, all testers felt the sophisticated padding provided more than ample impact protection; the double-cuff gauntlet made the glove a bit labor-intensive to put on, however. Overall quality and finish also received high marks.



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Olympia Vented Kevlar Protector
Price $74.95

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Made using "super premium deluxe leather" and Kevlar-reinforced thread, the Olympia Vented Kevlar Protector glove features the usual molded carbon-fiber knuckle protector with floating design to allow freedom of movement and prevent discomfort. Extra leather layers and padding protect the fingers and palm, with high-density padding used in the heel of the palm, thumb and side of the hand. A single vent in the back of the hand provides airflow, with the padded gauntlet and wrist strap featuring the usual hook-and-loop adjustment.

While overall fit seemed OK for a budget glove, all testers in every size noted that the Olympia felt stiff, as if the lack of precurved fingers prevented them from curling around the grip. The internal seams in the fingers are somewhat bothersome, and there's not a lot of feel through the relatively thick leather. The absence of precurved tailoring also results in the leather bunching up in the fingers and palm when gripping the bars. Considering its budget pricing, quality is OK.


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Olympia Kevlar Race Throttle
Price $59.95

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Made of premium drum-dyed cowhide, the Olympia Kevlar Race Throttle glove features flexible molded knuckle and finger protection that is fastened underneath the leather for a less flashy appearance. An additional leather layer with Kevlar reinforcement bolsters the heel of the palm, along with another layer in the grip area and the outside of the little finger. Hook-and-loop-adjustable wrist strap and gauntlet cuff allow a snug fit.

The Kevlar Race Throttle scored low in the fit category on all testers' evaluation sheets. Tailoring was very loose in all sizes, and not only would the armor sometimes hang up on the rider's fingers when he put the glove on, but some of it was located in the wrong areas. The lack of precurved fingers results in material bunching up when grasping the bars, and the thick leather dulls control feel significantly. Overall quality is OK, but not much more than that.


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RS Taichi GP WRX
Price $159.95

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The RS Taichi GP WRX glove features genuine cowhide leather in the majority of its construction, with Clarino synthetic-leather material in various outer portions. The carbon-fiber knuckle protection rides in an articulating section to allow freedom of movement, with additional carbon-shell protection in the fingers and heel of the palm. Shock-absorbent EVA foam padding is placed in the wrist, knuckles and fingers, with anatomical precurved tailoring. Schoeller Keprotec fabric is used in the little finger protection for added abrasion and tear resistance, in addition to a finger-seam design that reduces the risk of tearing or bursting. Perforations in the back of the hand and the finger gussets allow cooling airflow.

The GP WRX received top marks across the board for fit, comfort and quality. Some felt the snug fit required a little work to get the glove on their hand, but once slipped on there were no complaints or issues with overall fitment. The supple leather and precurved tailoring allow easy movement and excellent control feel, and while not the most comfortable glove in this group, the GP WRX is right up there near the top.


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RS Taichi Armed High Protection Leather
Price $89.95

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We made a slight mistake when we requested this glove, thinking it had more of a gauntlet. Nevertheless, the Armed High Protection Leather glove's construction (mostly leather, as its name suggests) provides a surprising amount of protection for a "shorty" glove. Individual carbon-fiber protector shells in the knuckles, fingers and heel of the palm ward off impact, while an extension of the palm's carbon armor piece covers the wrist area, a nice touch. Stretch Cordura at the base of the fingers in addition to articulating armor panels allows unhindered movement.

Despite its short gauntlet style, the Armed High Protection Leather glove garnered high marks for fit and comfort, with similar top grades for quality. Most testers felt that it was basically a shortened version of the GP WRX glove in overall feel, and its wrist strap is comfortable yet strong enough to keep the glove fastened to the rider's hand. While we're not big fans of shorty gloves, if we had to pick one this would definitely be a good choice.


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Shift Vertex
Price $129.95

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A relatively new addition to Shift's ever-expanding lineup of pavement gear, the Vertex glove features genuine cowhide-leather construction with a composite-reinforced shell for knuckle protection, along with finger guards that have vents on the first three fingers. "Premium leather" is used in the palm and grip area of the fingers, with an additional layer backed by padding and a full Kevlar liner throughout for even more abrasion resistance. The now-common open-back design for the knuckle protector allows easy movement without restriction or binding. Perforated panels permit airflow for added comfort, and the long gauntlet sports padding for extra protection.

The Vertex scored high across the board in the comfort category, with nearly all sizes of testers' evaluation sheets posting positive remarks. Fit was a bit of an issue, however, with about half of the testers saying the finger tailoring was too long, and there were a couple of complaints about bunching in the palm when grasping the bars and the wrist strap restricting movement. Overall sense of protection with the Vertex is good, although the back of the hand behind the knuckle protector feels a bit vulnerable. Quality was rated very good, especially for a glove at this Price point.


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Shift Bullet
Price $89.95

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As with its Vertex cousin, the Shift Bullet glove uses genuine cowhide-leather construction throughout, with "premium leather" in the palm and grip area of the fingers. An injection-molded polycarbonate knuckle protector shields that area from impact and floats in an articulating design to allow ease of movement with comfort. Finger protection is provided by articulating padded reinforcement panels, with the middle two fingers' upper protectors each sporting a single vent for airflow. Reflective trim adds nighttime visibility.

The Bullet scored high ratings for fit in nearly all testers' evaluation sheets, with decent tailoring in the fingers and palm area providing a snug feel. Comfort marks also were also mostly high in every size, although some small sizes noted an annoying seam in the thumb. The relatively thin leather helps comfort and gives excellent control feel, but it made a few testers wish for a bit more protection as well. Overall quality is a step down from the Vertex (for instance, there is a flap of leather on the palm that serves no real purpose), an expected drop considering the Price difference.


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Sidi Power
Price $190.00

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Long known for its superb boots and footware, Sidi is now branching out into the glove market. The Power glove employs soft goatskin leather and Kevlar stitching in its overall construction, with thermoplastic protection panels on the knuckles, fingers, side of the little finger, wrist and back of the hand. Numerous reinforcement panels are present in the palm and side of the hand for additional abrasion resistance. External seam stitching in the fingers and a breathable lining provide long-ride comfort. The gauntlet has protective padding in critical areas for extra protection, and reflective trim is used on the gauntlet and knuckles for nighttime visibility.

The Power received mostly high marks for overall fit, although small sizes noted a slightly loose feel in the fingers. Comfort was likewise rated very good, with nice, precurved fingers and a supple feel. Despite the external stitching in the fingers, some testers stated that they could feel some seams-but they also said they weren't obtrusive as in some of the cheaper gloves. Protection was rated highly with plenty of armor and extra leather in all the right places, and quality received top marks as well.


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Sidi X-Street
Price $125

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Using premium cowhide leather in its construction, the Sidi X-Street glove features padded and ridged knuckle/finger guards, with the palm reinforcement layer also sporting a nonslip material for better grip. Leather stretch panels on the wrist and fingers permit flexibility and dexterity, while perforated panels provide cooling airflow. The gauntlet has additional padding for increased protection, with a hook-and-loop-adjustable wrist strap and gauntlet cuff.

Overall fit with the X-Street wasn't as good as the Power, with nearly all testers remarking that the finger tailoring was too long. Comfort was rated good, although many testers wished for a little more protection; the knuckle shields' impact capability was suspect in some testers' eyes. Quality is a step down from the Power, but still above most other gloves in this Price range-attention to detail in the glove's construction is evident; it's just that some of the materials are obviously lower-grade to keep Price down.

stetto
15-11-2008, 09:53 AM
I got some GP Pro's once they mold they r comfy as hell. And aren't too bad in the molding process, well for me anyway

spotcom
15-11-2008, 09:59 AM
I've somehow ended up with three sets of gloves. The best ones for the track, in that they seem to have good protection, are a good fit, and are flexible enough to give great feel, are a set of Spyke racing gloves. Not sure what model.

I have a thicker set for winter. They've also got great protection, but I find them a little too bulky to give good feel on the track. They do come in handy in the cold, though!

In the article above, there's a few gloves that have extra protection in place for the little finger.

I do recall seeing some gloves that had the little finger taped to the ring finger. Apparently it's a fairly common injury, to break or dislocate the little finger in a crash. Has anyone seen this style, or had any experience with it?

wade193
15-11-2008, 10:03 AM
My Alpinestar GP's have them sown together. Seems like a good idea to me.

stetto
15-11-2008, 10:34 AM
Yeh the gp pros have pinky and ring joined together

LOAFIE
15-11-2008, 11:02 AM
Ive the Alpinestar SP2s and there great , good fit and comfy

phillmac
15-11-2008, 11:27 AM
Old mod Collins Race Tech, Best and cheapest gloves I have ever had. New mod Collins Race gloves to extend the life of my old ones

DanFX
15-11-2008, 11:33 AM
The A stars look shit hot, but i have a pair of AXO Tycoon's in black/white.

The Berik's look alrite too!

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http://www.bikebiz.com.au/contents/media/berik08-gloves-ktgrace-white.jpg

LAW
15-11-2008, 11:49 AM
I've got a pair of Joe Rocket GPX 2.0 for the track and weekend riding.

https://www.motoxoutlet.com/ProductImages/apparel/joerocket/gloves/gpx/gpx2.jpg

Dririder Assen gloves for winter

http://www.motorcyclemart.com.au/pictures/505/1/354801-1.jpg

And another very light, cheap pair that only go to my wrist which are comfy for going to the shops or something like that. They wouldn't hold up in a big stack but for just sliding down the road they're leather with carbon fibre knuckles so they're pretty tough.

Nuff
15-11-2008, 11:59 AM
My old pair was Held Phantoms. But on my 3rd crash a thread a thread around my thumb has let go and it resulted in me losing some skin.

Now I've Spidi race vent. I got them cheap on ebay and they are great fit. Less protection than Held gloves, and less feel as well. Can't beat kanagaroo leather for great feel. But this glove uses keramide thread, so hopefully it will not rip. Also the venting is great.

eden.kwok
15-11-2008, 12:28 PM
i have heard A* gloves fall apart in a fall....which is what turn me away from them, so currently i have a pair of spidi pentas. Fits really well, except for the thumb, its a little bit long there. Only the thumb though, its like they designed for a super large thumb chap.

Bigdog
15-11-2008, 01:35 PM
I have Technics Speedstar Kangaroo skin gloves. They took a bit of getting used to at first as the knuckle area was pretty abrasive but now they are sweet as.They have survived a crash at EC and are still going strong. The Knox wrist protection is a great idea too.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/Ballmead/Technics.jpg



TEKNIC SPEEDSTAR KANGAROO LEATHER MOTORCYCLE GLOVEItem #10832
Unique KNOX TP2 protection system - highest protection available, sewn into all key impact points on hand
Replaceable knuckle and cuff KNOX TP2 protection system
Racer cut: 1st and 2nd fingers are completely straight. 3rd and pinkie remain pre curved.
Developed with all Teknic racers worldwide for unparalleled feel and control
Glove body and palm made of top quality Kangaroo Skin: 0.8mm thickness
Glove body airflow perforated, allowing maximum breathability, without compromising strength
Finger sides made of stretch Du Pont Kevlar to aid in air flow and finger movement
100% Du Pont Kevlar anterior lining
Anterior tunnel system in knuckles adds protection without loss of mobility
Finger Tunnel Systems add layers of kangaroo and improves finger movement
Memory foam and 3mm nylon armor plates in glove anterior
Memory foam padding in all secondary impact areas
Little finger Safety Wrap System contains a Du Pont Kevlar and Kangaroo overlay that wraps over the outside of the little finger to add protection to vulnerable seams
Cuff Safety Wrap System has a Kangaroo overlay flap that wraps over the outside of the glove acting as the Glove cuff strap, while also protecting vulnerable seams
Underside wrist strap improves hand movement, and adds wrist protection
Elastic cuff for better glove retention
Gloves supplied in a heavy-duty glove carrier for travel and storage

drukenhard
15-11-2008, 03:04 PM
I first had A* GP Pros, still have them but only used them in shitty weather as I got them a bit big so I use undergloves with them (plus they are the older carbon non vented knuckle ones)

I then got A* GP Tech glove which fell apart after about a year of use with no falls!
The leather got all stiff from sweat and wore through on the parts where your hand bends (I can take photos but it's basically at each corner of the very oddly shaped double layer on the palm.

I now have Held Phantom gloves which feel a hell of a lot better,
apparently will never go stiff from sweat/rain,
have a little visor wiper on the left index finger,
have double layers of nice soft kangaroo leather across the whole palm (not just some silly shape), and are generally a very study glove!

They also have this "stingray hide" stuff which is cool to play with when you're bored!

James
15-11-2008, 07:46 PM
I strarted with A* SP2s then decided I needed something with more protection for the track. So I bought some A* GP pros and had an off on the very first day I wore them. The cuff protection was all scratched up and I felt relieved that I was wearing these rather than the SP2s as they don't have anything like the protection around the cuff section.
I won't use the SP2s again after seeing how good the GP Pros worked. I'll buy another set when I wear these out :ayyy:

gsx10
15-11-2008, 09:23 PM
yep, got the GP Pro's. they've not even worn much yet after thousands of km's in wet & dry, etc.

hoffy
15-11-2008, 09:29 PM
I like a very basic full leather glove...none of this power rangers shit for me..

tazkenny
15-11-2008, 09:30 PM
I have bought stufffrom these guys, although that was when the dollar was in favour.

www.sportbiketrackgear.com

They do reviews of gear for their website, which are all on youtube.

Example:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iFHWUukNSnE&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/user/Sportbiketrackgear

tazkenny
15-11-2008, 09:35 PM
i have heard A* gloves fall apart in a fall....which is what turn me away from them, .

Have heard that several times also, but wonder why just the gloves would get a bad rep. :confused1: Although their SMX+ boots have issues.

Dr freedom
16-11-2008, 12:53 AM
Ive just got my 2nd pair of A*'s SP3's for the cooler months. They are great & comfy to wear for long periods. I prefer the older model to the newer one though

I have a pair of A*s carbon SMX2's for the warm weather. They are short & have good protection around the knuckles & palms.. again good to wear on long trips & breath extremely well

Belinda
16-11-2008, 07:23 AM
I must have short fingers because 90% of gloves dont fit me, most have floppy fingertips, which is very annoying 'flicking' on the levers.

A friend imports motorcycle gear (he just joined RATS as well!....SHOGAI) and when he said he had the perfect glove for me I didnt believe him. If you have short fingers try the Clover gloves. They have a small panel of stretch material (like in leathers) on the side of each finger and the length seems to be a bit shorter than most gloves.

Here is the basic model, not a gauntlet style but soooo comfortable and the feel from them is unreal.

http://www.clover.it/src/main.asp?page=products.asp&lng=EN&idf=3&idp=119


The full race gloves are below. I think they are around $600 tho :(

http://www.clover.it/src/main.asp?page=products.asp&lng=EN&idf=3&idp=144


Check out his site www.shogai.com.au. He also imports the same Dainese suit that Rossi and Vermeulan wear :drool:

BART
16-11-2008, 07:33 AM
Ive the Alpinestar SP2s and there great , good fit and comfy

+1 These are the most comfortable gloves I have worn. Great fit and good protection.

AS76
16-11-2008, 04:29 PM
2899

Berik KTG, Reasonably priced, well made.

Turtle
16-11-2008, 05:38 PM
Only the BEST Teknic Speedstar Full Kangaroo Skin..........Alpine Stars you pay for the name...............shit gloves that last a couple of months...

Captain
16-11-2008, 06:01 PM
...............shit gloves that last a couple of months...
I've had mine for about 3 months, and so far they seem to be wearing well, in fact, they look brand new. But I guess it depends on how much you use them, I'm a once-a-week rider at best :(

Loco976
16-11-2008, 06:09 PM
Only the BEST Teknic Speedstar Full Kangaroo Skin..........Alpine Stars you pay for the name...............shit gloves that last a couple of months...

yeah i dunno.. from what i hear generally about alpinestars its just the brandname you buy

too many times i hear cons rather then pro's.. but they do look good i must admit

still going with ray on this one

zRoYz
16-11-2008, 07:41 PM
Personally I think Alpinestars gear is top shelf & have only ever used there gloves. I had a pair of GP plus gloves that lasted many years road & track use & finally had to be retired after my crash T3 EC. They saved my hand that day & had major damage but my hand didn't have a scratch. I have since replaced them with GP pro.

With anything you buy there is always going to be some gear that wont be up to scratch which slips past quality control & the more popular the brand the more likely the chance due to the large numbers sold. This is the reason there is a warranty period because if there is a manufacturing fault it should show up rather quickly & with leathers/gloves it's normally the stitching.

I would simply recommend before taking anything home you take it out of the packaging & give the product a good look over for lose stitching & faults.

DiZ
18-11-2008, 03:04 PM
I now have the shits with my cheap entry gloves and I want something a bit better so I don't loose my hands if I ever have a stack. I seem to have found a few around the range I want with the features I wanted. They have to have a decent sized cuff, a wrist strap and also be well ventilated. I am leaning towards prefering the 3rd and 4th finger being connected for added protection. So far I have

Joe Rocket GPX Gloves - $150

http://www.mcas.com.au/products/5658bd9bc6.jpg
http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=5761

* Drum dyed leather top
* Pittards Ceramic infused leather Armour Tan palm
* Injection moulded, vented knuckle
* High density padding on fingers, cuff and wrist
* Double cuff closure.

The gloves have wrist straps, a decent cuff, when I tried them on they were quite comfy and seemed nice and sturdy. They don't have the 3/4 fingers joined but seemed well vented.


Teknic Violator Gloves - $180

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/contents/media/teknic-gloves-violator-white.jpg
http://www.bikebiz.com.au/contents/en-us/d1067.html#p5530

# Finger sides and thumb made of stretch Du Pont KEVLARTM to allow better finger movement and fit.
# Little Finger safety wrap systemTM, a Du Pont KEVLARTM and leather overlay that wraps over the outside of the little finger. Stretch nylex lining in lower palm and cuff.
# Top quality drum dyed leather glove with kangaroo hide palm.
# Anatomical pre-curved racer cut fingers and palm.
# Leather covered carbon knuckle and finger molds for impact and abrasion resistance.
# Anterior tunnel systemTM, adds protection without loss of mobility.
# Finger tunnel systemsTM, on all fingers and thumb, adding layers of leather and also improving finger movement.
# Underside cuff strap, improves hand movement, and adds wrist protection.
# Nylon armor plating backed by 6 mm foam on glove anterior, and cuff.
# Cuff strap safety wrap systemTM, a leather flap that wraps over the outside of the glove to protect glove seams, and allows cuff adjustment.
# Rubber grip Clarino overlays in palm.
# Elastic cuff, for better glove retention.

The guys with the Teknics gloves seem to like them so I looked them up and added one to the list. Well vented, extra protection on the little finger, wrist strap with leather fold over, decent armour with some roo leather chucked in for good measure.


Alpinestars GP Plus Gloves - $200

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/contents/media/astar-gpplusglove07.jpg
http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=6637

* PU knuckle and finger sliders for superior impact and abrasion resistance
* Patented 3rd and 4th finger bridge protects against finger roll and separation during impacts
* Internal Schoeller KeprotecŪ reinforcements
* Internal KevlarŪ lining
* External seams on the fingers
* Dual wrist closures
* Anatomically designed palm for superior grip and feel.

This glove has it all pretty much all the boxes ticked. Whether it is worth the extra dosh over the other gloves is what I hope to find out.

What do you guys think and recommend.

Team Zero
18-11-2008, 07:25 PM
I have a set of Spidi Penta

http://www.spidi.com/spidi-jsp/index.jsp?lang=en

they are awesome the the third and fourth fingers are attached but can be separated.

I haven't crash tested them yet, but feel very confident that they would do the job when I do. I had a mate who swore by Held gloves. He crash tested three times and they were still going strong.

http://www.heldusa.com/akira.html

Marcus
18-11-2008, 11:24 PM
flash backs to net rider, which is sort of cool in a nostalgic kinda way...

Mr.Ed
19-11-2008, 01:47 PM
I have the Alpinestar GP Plus. Lowsided at around 60-65, slid on my but and tried to use my hands to slow down/stand up (had no idea I was going that fast still)... didn't manage to stand up (and almost hurt myself in the process:hatter:) but it did slow me down to an almost complete stop in a matter of a few meters. Gloves held up GREAT! Barely no signs whatsoever!! In fact, I think that if I was to try and sell them on ebay I could fool the next buyer!:lmao: But then again they're all black and that always help, right?!

CowskinBodybag
23-11-2008, 08:56 PM
chado wears anything with 'ducati' on it.

*Oggy*
23-11-2008, 09:09 PM
"Racer" gloves are the only ones i buy now... easier to read a review on them.... I got them from the UK over a year ago and then they were 100 pounds, but they are the bizz....

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-gloves/racer-gloves/

OzFighter
25-11-2008, 03:26 PM
Just saw this post today.

Although Rjays may have a bit of a reputation of being cheap and poor quality for whatever reason, the new 2009 gloves are far from it.

http://www.rjays.com.au/home/media/pics/RJ_AD060%2009%20Gloves.jpg

These new gloves have been designed and manufactured by top designers in Europe. Genuine 100% leather, kevlar panels, ballistic plastics, double stitching, reinforced leather panels on the palms just to name a few features.

The reason Rjays have a good price tag is because pretty much all of your money stays in Australia as Rjays is a 100% owned and run company. Yes we pay overseas manufactures to make us quality gear, but thats why they are so good. The reason you pay $300+ for a pair of A-stars or sidi's isnt because they are worth $300 (pft hardly), its because your paying for shipping and tax as well as the exchange rate cost to get them over here. On top of that your pretty much paying 60% extra just for the name. They know they're good, and they know you'll pay for the name. You ask someone who lives in italy how much they pay for genuine Italian made gear. Ask an American what they pay for an average pair of A-stars gloves. Dont always believe something is better because it costs more.

Rjays gloves have gone through all the tests, if not more tests than the bigger names as Australia has the toughest standards in the world. When we want to make anything for the market it has to go through some very, very demanding tests. Sure some of the cheaper gloves are cheaper for a reason. Like the bandit and phantom. These gloves has been around for a while and are the low end of the range. But you look at the Stealth 2 or the Viper 2 or the Toxic. Now those are some sweet gloves.

I know how important safety is and its hard to get riders to give rjays a go, because no one wants to feel like a guniea pig. They would rather stick with what they know and feel safe with. But for quite a while Rjays has been the biggest selling motorcycle brand in Australia due to its cheap prices, being Australian owned and its quality gear. Give them a go someday. You might be surprised.

_chado77
25-11-2008, 05:43 PM
chado wears anything with 'ducati' on it.

gotta keep up the appearance mate:Rossi::)

got several pairs.. my alpine stars (were top of line a while ago) are/were excellent.. lasted years, never cleaned/oiled, and used in all sorts of weather and after 3 years when i crashed at EC they were damaged pretty bad but my hand was 100% ok..(will post photo if i can find em in garage)

my dianese(ducati) speed metals are extremly comfortable after the intial wear in period.. had them a year done 10+K in em in all sorts of weather and the only thing wrong with them is a bit of colour has worn from palm.. havent crash tested but think the quality is good so should hold up well

my coretech(got em from the states so not sure if available over here) are a shorter version glove..comfie yet to crash test but i only wear them when doing short runs(ie errands/lunch etc)..build quality sems good and were a bargain in the US..

various other pairs but these 3 above are easily the best:ayyy:

rednut
25-11-2008, 06:54 PM
Just saw this post today.

Although Rjays may have a bit of a reputation of being cheap and poor quality for whatever reason, the new 2009 gloves are far from it.

http://www.rjays.com.au/home/media/pics/RJ_AD060%2009%20Gloves.jpg

These new gloves have been designed and manufactured by top designers in Europe. Genuine 100% leather, kevlar panels, ballistic plastics, double stitching, reinforced leather panels on the palms just to name a few features.

The reason Rjays have a good price tag is because pretty much all of your money stays in Australia as Rjays is a 100% owned and run company. Yes we pay overseas manufactures to make us quality gear, but thats why they are so good. The reason you pay $300+ for a pair of A-stars or sidi's isnt because they are worth $300 (pft hardly), its because your paying for shipping and tax as well as the exchange rate cost to get them over here. On top of that your pretty much paying 60% extra just for the name. They know they're good, and they know you'll pay for the name. You ask someone who lives in italy how much they pay for genuine Italian made gear. Ask an American what they pay for an average pair of A-stars gloves. Dont always believe something is better because it costs more.

Rjays gloves have gone through all the tests, if not more tests than the bigger names as Australia has the toughest standards in the world. When we want to make anything for the market it has to go through some very, very demanding tests. Sure some of the cheaper gloves are cheaper for a reason. Like the bandit and phantom. These gloves has been around for a while and are the low end of the range. But you look at the Stealth 2 or the Viper 2 or the Toxic. Now those are some sweet gloves.

I know how important safety is and its hard to get riders to give rjays a go, because no one wants to feel like a guniea pig. They would rather stick with what they know and feel safe with. But for quite a while Rjays has been the biggest selling motorcycle brand in Australia due to its cheap prices, being Australian owned and its quality gear. Give them a go someday. You might be surprised.

Did john pay you to say that? :lmao:

OzFighter
25-11-2008, 10:34 PM
You ask too many questions captain.

No John didnt pay me to say any of that. If anyone was going to get me to write up about Rjays, which they didnt, it wouldnt be John anyway. It would be Rob. John runs all the MCAS's, he doesnt really have a whole lot to do with Rjays. Thats Rob's baby. You should know that if you worked there rednut.

Im just proud to be part of a company and their products that has done so much more than most riders know. If it wasnt for Rob and John we wouldnt have as much choice as we do today. Rjays and Cassons has been in the game for just over 20 years now and have and still do choose and import most of the major brands you see on the road. I dont think they would still be as strong as they are if they were worthless as a motorcycle apparel company.

I aint a business man, but i know if more of our products are made here in Oz and our company is owned and run here and were paying Australian companies to help us make products as well as overseas makers, surely there's alot more of your money staying here than going overseas. Again, i dont know 100%, but id say the importing costs would be alot more to bring in goods from overseas than from Sydney. Whatever the cost, it all goes onto the buyers, and the less the better right?

Anyway, the idea of my post was mainly about the quality of Rjays gear these days. Alot of people still think they are inferior to all other brands out there. Yes i may be biased because i work for them, but im just the graphics guy. Its not like im the head of quality control. If i was i could debate for hours. Im just like anyone else and i want the same level of protection as everyone does. Ive had the chance to see Rjays full range and id trust them to save me in a stack. Every month were bringing out brand new gear made with the latest technologies and developments.

I just find it funny that everyone worships these big name famous brands, when the majority of them are all made in the same factories using the same fabrics and materials as all the others, including the competition. The only difference is the badge and the price.

Working close to these big names in the industry means i learn alot of things most riders dont get to. My advice is to research individual components of any gear your thinking of buying. And i dont mean go to the brands website for info, i mean if a jacket or glove says its made with some awesome break through kevlar fabric, go to kevlar to find out what it actually is. Find independent testing results from the manufactures who make the stuff. Buzz words are thrown around all the time in the advertising world, i should know. What one brand calls 100% A grade genuine leather will be different to what another company calls 100% A grade genuine leather.

There is no one ultimate brand out there. Any brand that makes products through proper research and development that saves our skins are worth their weight in gold. Find the facts and make your own judgement.

By the way Captain. Do you still have this Rjays helmet that fell apart? What was the main cause of the falling apart? How old was it? Any details might help to give an explanation as to why it failed. The name of the helmet? When and where you bought it? If you had it still you could send it in to Cassons to take a look at it.

Captain
25-11-2008, 11:31 PM
Ozfighter I deleted my previous comments in case they might have been misunderstood. As a consumer / customer, I was only seeking clarifications from someone who is representing and promoting a particular brand. Don't think there's anything wrong with that, even if we're both RATS members.

Stu23
26-11-2008, 08:43 AM
Must agree with some of that.....well respected UK magazine regularly tests kit to destruction...abrasion, seams etc etc . The big name kit isnt the usually best more often as not, it is as good as the rest , in fact sometimes the worst !! I was a bit shocked....Now im not saying the big names are crap, just that the smaller names are sometimes better or just as good. Image usually wins, marketing is a powerful tool !!! There are always exceptions to the rule though :)

Stu

OzFighter
26-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Captain, i understood why you asked the questions you did, and they were good questions. But honestly i dont have the exact answers for questions to do with how much money and where it all goes throughout the world when it comes to mine or anyone elses company. I dont do business and figures. I do graphics. But i also ride motorbikes and my main post was about quality and safety from a riders point of view, not of someone representing Rjays. I wouldt go wearing a cheap p.o.s helmet and trusting it to save my life just because i work for the guys who made it. Hell no. I want my ass protected out there on the road just like everyone else, and if i thought Rjays couldnt do the job well i would have said a word.

Like Stu says, you would be surprised with real results of some of these tests that all bike gear goes through. No one has made the perfect glove yet, and i doubt anyone ever will. Thats why we have so many choices as all companies are having a go at making the best glove they can. Not all of anyone's products always turn out to be as good as they'd hoped. Its all trial and error. I was really just giving Rjays a bit of a shout out as they are alot better than some people might think.

Dont get me wrong though, im not saying they're the best in the world and you have to all go buy Rjays. I honestly could really give a rats ass if you do or not. Of course go with what you feel will protect you the most without ripping you off. An informed decision is always better than going with what some one tells you. Do your research properly as its your skin you want to save, not mine.

SmiddyR6
27-11-2008, 04:42 PM
ive got the A* GP TECH, and i think their great, ive had them for awhile and their still going strong,ive also got Joe Rocket GPX 2.0, their not bad but the stitching has come open on the end of one of the fingers..

squirrelgadget
27-11-2008, 11:55 PM
http://www.extremelargeness.co.uk/images/productimages/18_1.jpg

Captain
28-11-2008, 07:07 AM
You use that one for different type of 'riding' ... you pulled the wrong one out.

squirrelgadget
28-11-2008, 10:59 AM
doh!!!! i'm on the wrong forum again