Cops have auto plate reading

[Birdman45]

Dunno if this has already been spoken about, but the police now have auto plate readers that , when you pass them, if you are unregistered or unlicensed or have warrants out etc etc, it will come up on their screen and notify them, they chase you and game over. How do I know? I have a qld lic that I got before I lost my nsw one, and had been pulled over about a month ago, to which the guy said "technically, coz you got it before you lost the nsw one, I can't do anything".......... woohoo, I thought, but Sunday arvo I passed a purple BLACK WINDOWED (SURELY ILLEGAL) pig cage going the other way, and I looked in my mirror, he'd turned off and headed where ever he was going, I drove on about 3 streets, was maybe 2km away when all of a sudden, BANG, he's up my arse lights goin off. Got me for being unlicensed from the rego of my car. Lesson? Rego your vehicle in someone else's name. LOL Just so everyone knows , anyway.

[Turtle]

I have heard about the auto plate reading........didn't know it was in use yet

[Captain]

You were driving unlicenced?

[Birdman45]

No, I had a QLD licence. Haha and like I said, first time they said they couldn't do anything as I got it before I lost the nsw one. Usually they get people for losing their nsw, and then going to another state, get a license there without disclosing they lost it here. But I hadn't lost mine, I handed mine in to the qld rta to get my qld lic.

either way, stupid I know, but when you need to be at the dyo for 2 hours, my other business for the rest of the day and then at a gig at night, it is hard after 15 or so years to NOT have a lic.

[zRoYz]

they have had this for awhile but not all hwy patrol cars are equipped with it. they used the system during the Cronulla riots which shows how long they have had the system. I was pulled over 2 years ago in my AU ute because there system came up with no rego as the RTA had canceled it due to parking fines as was a company car & bosses wife who also had company car didn't mention them so RTA cancel all company rego. all I did was drive past a parked hwy patrol.

[tempest161]

it has been in use for many years now. they target stolen plates/car etc.

[jasonbw]

Awesome, that's a step forward in my books. Piss off all the idiots without insurance driving unlicensed, catch stolen cars and bikes, shit hot!

[Marcus]

Is this teh same camera that is supposed to read the fine print on your rego lable?

[jasonbw]

Now THAT I can't believe... unless its on NCIS . :D

[aznoz]

I'm pretty sure i got done by an auto plate reader (riding a R6 on my P's) cos they singled me out in a group of around 10 bikes. I was near the front too.



Is this teh same camera that is supposed to read the fine print on your rego lable?

Why would they need to do that? Wouldnt they get all the info they needed of your plate? :confused1:

[spanky158]

These cameras have been in use for a while, although I didn;t know they used them in HWP cars. I saw a few years ago that were setup on the side of the rd on tripods. Although I say go for it, I certainly don't drive unlicensed or unrego'd, if ya do, ya running the risk now! Although all ya have to say if ya car is unregd is that you are on the way to get a pink slip, sir.

[thumpn]

Crazy stuff.. Good idea though, for those that have a license of course.. lol

These are only ran in highway patrol cars i'm pretty sure, same as the in car video recorders I think? My mate got pulled over by a hwy patrol car and they told him that he was being video'd and voice recorded, I guess they have too tell u that for legality reasons?

w3rd.

[Captain]

I certainly don't drive unlicensed or unrego'd, if ya do, ya running the risk now! Although all ya have to say if ya car is unregd is that you are on the way to get a pink slip, sir.

The 'sir' was a nice touch :ayyy:

[oz r1]

Awesome, that's a step forward in my books. Piss off all the idiots without insurance driving unlicensed, catch stolen cars and bikes, shit hot!

Totally agree :ayyy:

[oz r1]

Crazy stuff.. Good idea though, for those that have a license of course.. lol

These are only ran in highway patrol cars i'm pretty sure, same as the in car video recorders I think? My mate got pulled over by a hwy patrol car and they told him that he was being video'd and voice recorded, I guess they have too tell u that for legality reasons?

w3rd.

When they pulled me over on the m4 one morning the cop said the same to me.

[jasonbw]

The forward facing video is in all NSW highway cars, its constantly on and with the touch of a button it saves the last number of seconds worth of recorded info (30sec?) and will record a clip until ended. That's not the numberplate recognition camera unless that part of the system has just been added to it.

[motoplast]

These cameras have been in use for a while, although I didn;t know they used them in HWP cars. I saw a few years ago that were setup on the side of the rd on tripods. Although I say go for it, I certainly don't drive unlicensed or unrego'd, if ya do, ya running the risk now! Although all ya have to say if ya car is unregd is that you are on the way to get a pink slip, sir.

Don't alway's work!. At least once a week someone tries that onto a cop and tells them he is going to TJ's for a pink/blue slip. The cops either ring me to see if they are booked in or they follow them down here, sometimes coming in to check my booking sheet!. If ur car is just out of rego', using the pink slip excuse may work, if u are heading in the right direction to a known repairer!.
HWP cars are also fitted with rear camera's that automatically record the last 30 seconds that the driver can stop at anytime, remember that if u pass one in the opposite direction at warp speed, he already has ur no.
If u are running interstate licenses, as birdman said, register the car in someone elses name or register ur car in the same state as ur license.

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

[spanky158]

Don't alway's work!. At least once a week someone tries that onto a cop and tells them he is going to TJ's for a pink/blue slip. The cops either ring me to see if they are booked in or they follow them down here, sometimes coming in to check my booking sheet!. If ur car is just out of rego', using the pink slip excuse may work, if u are heading in the right direction to a known repairer!.
HWP cars are also fitted with rear camera's that automatically record the last 30 seconds that the driver can stop at anytime, remember that if u pass one in the opposite direction at warp speed, he already has ur no.
If u are running interstate licenses, as birdman said, register the car in someone elses name or register ur car in the same state as ur license.

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

Ha ha, buggers they are, following people to make sure that's where they are headed. I never have an appointment for my pink slip though, I always just rock up and the guy does it for me on the spot.

I found out about the rearward facing cam when a commodore decided to overtake me in the same lane on the F3 one night. I cracked the shits and high beamed him, only to see a little blinking red light, and realised that it was the record/infra red light for a HWP camera. I backed off (was doing about 25-30 over) and let him chase the guy he was after, who was doing 196 km/h and lane split between the cop and a van. Before that, I thought they only had a forward facing camera, always knew they had the record function but thought the number plate recognition was only for the roadside mounted cameras with a specific police check setup, have seen that numerous times in Castle Hill, one copper and a tripod pointed down at number plate height, and a copper setup 100 metres up the road pulling up unrego'd people, etc.

[eden.kwok]

how can they check whether your licensed or not? i mean someone else could be riding your bike....

[Dr freedom]

The technology is great, seen it in action on Captain Cook Dr during the nulla riots. The tv news crews were filming a story about it as well.
However the state is broke & they seem to still have enough in the budget for the cameras that are still going up..

[spanky158]

how can they check whether your licensed or not? i mean someone else could be riding your bike....

The camera is direct linked to RTA database, which tells them the stats of the OWNER of the vehicle. If someone else is riding your bike and YOU are unlicensed, the stats will show up saying owner is unlicensed, and you will be pulled over to verify who is riding the bike.

[ST Kurt]

What a bitch...

I got done in my car over a year ago, I was 4 weeks past rego, I just got my pink slip that morning too. Heading to a mates place that arvo, I was issued 2 fines, one for driving an unregistered vehicle and another for driving an un-insured vehicle. Speaking to others who were pulled over during the same exercise, I was the only one issue with 2 fines for the same thing. Is it cos I is black? What a bunch of C*nts.

So yeah, this has been around for a while now. In fact I knew one of the lead architects on the development project a few years back now.

The next phase of the project was to fit this feature to their HWY cars. Thankfully, the technology available at the time didn’t return the result within the require targets. Surely this is just a matter of time too.

[spanky158]

What a bitch...

The next phase of the project was to fit this feature to their HWY cars. Thankfully, the technology available at the time didn’t return the result within the require targets. Surely this is just a matter of time too.


Mate, judging by the posts in this thread, the technology has now been added to the HWY cars.

[j-rad]

they are using it in Canberra for sometime and catching many MANY un rego'd drivers, no license, outstanding warrants etc etc...........

[Mike]

There going nuts with these things in Canberra ATM. They've even set up a designated task force who's sole purpose is to run these auto plate readers. Everytime I go past one of these there are always a few cars pulled over.

[Captain]

Tell you what, if you've ever been run into by an unlicenced, uninsured and unregistered vehicle (like I have) then you'd appreciate it.

[Mono]

However the state is broke & they seem to still have enough in the budget for the cameras that are still going up..

Of course they do...they're revenue raisers. They can't afford NOT to!

[xcabbi]

Occasionally you see the highway men on the side of the road with a camera mounted on a tripod. They use it for collection data. Every car that passes that camera has a snap taken. At the end of the shit the cops look through each pic and record the vital data. Vehicle rego, make, model and colour. This info is cross referenced with the RTA database and updated. If you bought a red bike then painted it blue and haven't told the RTA. The first time you get snapped the hyway men record you bike as they see it.
This initial happy snap session is an excersise in recon.

Now the fun part. The highway men have autoplate reading in most of their cars. When they camp out on futher recon and sting missions they autoplate reading camera snaps almost every car that goes passed. Once your pic is taken the licence plate is cross referenced to the vehicle information in the data base. Reason you got done aznoz is that bike is most probqbly registered in your name. The returned data showed that you are still on your P's therefore you should not be riding your bike. If a fully licensed rider was riding your bike they also would have been puled up for a quick q & a, but once they show thier license they are given the all clear and allowed to continue on their merry way.

Its not rocket science poeple. Pretty simple really.

[jasonbw]

Tell you what, if you've ever been run into by an unlicenced, uninsured and unregistered vehicle (like I have) then you'd appreciate it.

I've been hit by a driver of said circumstance. Not good. lots of damage and all they had to pay was less than a dollar a month for their lifetime, I decided to wear the repair costs myself since it was going to be too much trouble! Get the dumb pricks off the road if they're not insured I say, and to those few who feel even 3rd party property insurance isnt worth it, I hope you realise it is before you have your wages garnished forever.

[drukenhard]

If you had comprehensive insurance I'm pretty sure they wouldn't cover you if you didn't have your license either.......



....You maybe could claim late onset schizophrenia and the other one of you stole your bike and gear and rode off with your bike and you only came back when you were sitting on the bike pulled over.

Do you have to prove you're insane but capable of handling a vehicle?

[Birdman45]

Like I said, not proud of the fact, and it is stupid, but once you are in the situation (and mine is coz some rag mowed me down basically) and you NEED your lic, it's real hard not to drive when you have to. Anyway, off to get a treadly and train/ride to where I need to be from now on, lesson learnt. Still , if my dumb arse step son rego'd the car in his name like I asked him to I wouldn't be in the mess. LOL

[stetto]

I like this idea, another good reason for me to not upgrade bikes early. Tracks seeming more and more tempting for a yr

[lilninja]

My Mate got done riding his bike unlicenced due to losing it but kept on riding by a HWY patrol car near picton. It surveyed his bro then went past him to flag down my mate.

[Captain]

Hang on a minute; are you guys saying that if you're unlicensed, and the car/bike is in you name, and the cops see it being driven/ridden they send you a ticket?
How do they know it was you?

[Johnny]

Like I said, not proud of the fact, and it is stupid, but once you are in the situation (and mine is coz some rag mowed me down basically) and you NEED your lic, it's real hard not to drive when you have to. Anyway, off to get a treadly and train/ride to where I need to be from now on, lesson learnt. Still , if my dumb arse step son rego'd the car in his name like I asked him to I wouldn't be in the mess. LOL

LOL, sorry to hear mate..

How long for ?

CHeers for the headsup, I see the loophole ;) , now lets hope I can jump through it before its closed too :lmao:

[jasonbw]

Hang on a minute; are you guys saying that if you're unlicensed, and the car/bike is in you name, and the cops see it being driven/ridden they send you a ticket?
How do they know it was you?

I haven't seen a post to say its that automatic? I saw Spanky's post saying they'll pull you over. I can't see cops being able to fine you if your registered car is used by a licensed driver.

[Captain]

Thanks, I must have misunderstood. Thought it sounded a bit odd ... :confused1:

:ayyy:

[Dr freedom]

Heard on the radio this morning that as of Jan, the RTA will be using mobile cameras in unmarked cars.
They wont have warning signs prior, only the pissy little slice of bread sized thing after you have passed the unmarked car.
This is a seperate opperation to what the police are doing & they will drive & park them everywhere.

The RTA has been pushing for it as trials have gone on in Vic & SA.

[spanky158]

RTA using mobile cameras for speeding? Or RTA breaches such as noise, car/bike defects, trucks, etc?

[Dr freedom]

He said for speeding.. I dont know how credible the guy was.

[spanky158]

Hmmm, I can't imagine the RTA guys nailing people for speeding, but I have been known to be wrong before. If they are gonna, then that is fucked.

[Dr freedom]

Im hoping there is no dough in any budget for it or that its a hoax. It will be one of the lowest acts any government dept will ever pull if it is. Blatant grab for you hard earned.

What about Rudd .. all those familes in NSW looking forward to his handout will have it snatched by Rees & his band of cnuts..
auto plate reading is beginning to look like nothing compard to the future..

[Birdman45]

I thought they were doing this in ACT already, with ANY car......... someone told me you could sign up or some crap, park your car and start snapping away, you don't know if any car down there is gonna snap you going past, but I dunno if this is right or not. The only thing that shits me about it all, is that as long as it's easy, and your basically a law abiding person that ain't gonna cause shit, then they will nail you every chance they get, BUT if you steal shit left right and center, bash people, sell drugs, etc etc, it gets a bit hard and they can't be fukt. For eg, my bike shop was broken into a few times, once stealing 30 bikes over easter, another about $70K of steering dampers, exhausts and helmets/leathers etc............... ever hear anything about it? Nup. Too hard. With the 30 bikes , we found out some great leads on our own through customers that had bikes offered to them and sussed stuff out further for us etc, what happened? They walked into the business that were selling them (bikes) and asked if they had any stolen bikes, they said no, so, yeah, wasn't them. Hahaha No shit, that is how it happened. With teh dampers, I had a chick call me and ask about fitment of a damper, and I said I had a heap stolen and that they come with kits etc, where did she get it? and she said at the post office auctions. I called the cops to tell them, they said I'd have to have a item listing or receipt from the austion or some crap for it to be of any help to them. WHAT THE FUK? Am I supposed to catch these guys for them? It's a hoax.

Another night they broke into the back, I got there, cops got there, I was standing there at 1am and accross the radio I hear the chick say that the security at the servo just down the road called coz 2 guys walking through car park on way to caravan park with bike gear.................. nobody even bothered to acknowledge the message until i asked them about it. I asked what they were gonna do and they said prolly send someone down to check it out. Did they? Nup. Park owner came up a week later asked if I was broken in to and said he called the cops 3 times to tell them he knew which van had the gear, nobody came. BUT, do 10km/hr over the speed limit, and BANG, they'll go you for whatever they can, it's fukt, and it shits me to tears.

As for the loop hole, it got me off once, and coz they let me drive away I thought it would again, because I got the lic in qld before I lost it down here, they said technically they couldn't do anything, BUT this guy didn't give a rats, gave me a court notice right there, BUT STILL, again, if it was that serious, and he HAD to turn around and grab me, WHY, when I asked how I'd get home did he say "well, you won't be driving while I'm here" and got in his car and took off at warp speed????? I mean, you'd think if it was so bad etc (not saying it's good) he'd wait there til I got picked up or sorted something out, he KNEW I'd drive home, and just didn't wanna be there when I did....... It's just stupid.

[stetto]

So for arguements sake, if a non LAMs bike is registered to a fully licenced rider, then the only way a l or p plater could get done riding it is if they got pulled over for some other reason?

[dazzler]

schucks just re.read your post.....

yip if you look like john smith on john smiths bike yule be sweet!!!

just dont advertise it by being silly

[Captain]

He said for speeding.. I dont know how credible the guy was.

It makes every sense that they would move to this.

Once we realise that it's a revenue raising exercise (and is there any doubt?) and no longer a criminal / policing / security matter, then why have the police do it? Some time back the 'accident' system was changed, so that police would no longer attend, you simly reported it to them. That 'service' was later taken over by non-police staff.
So it's a logical consequence ... you could even argue that it makes sense; and given that the police simply issues fines (they no longer make a decision on its merit) then any dickhead can do it. It leaves the police free to do the important work (the fact that they don't is really a minor issue, totally lost in the argument ;)).

[squirrelgadget]

I have a qld lic that I got before I lost my nsw one, and had been pulled over about a month ago, to which the guy said "technically, coz you got it before you lost the nsw one, I can't do anything".......... woohoo, I thought, but Sunday arvo I passed a purple BLACK WINDOWED (SURELY ILLEGAL) pig cage going the other way, and I looked in my mirror, he'd turned off and headed where ever he was going, I drove on about 3 streets, was maybe 2km away when all of a sudden, BANG, he's up my arse lights goin off. Got me for being unlicensed from the rego of my car.

same thing happened to me two weeks ago. was riding along normally past a cop car, the cop disappeared off into a side street, then 2 mins later came zooming up the side of all the cars with lights on, pulled in behind me and pulled me over. Unknown to me the bike was unregistered as i was borrowing it from a friend who hadn't paid their speeding fines (so rta canceled their regos, license etc). Cop let me go, he was really nice about it. did the whole this conversation is being recorded thing thou.

not sure if it was the autoplate reader or not but it was unusual. i thought he might have been bored and typed in my plate. He said that he noticed my high heels and got curious. discrimination! lol

[Kimbo]

A shire girl riding in heels? what happened to thongs and tank top squirrel

[Captain]

A shire girl riding in heels? what happened to thongs and tank top squirrel

:lmao:

[squirrelgadget]

A shire girl riding in heels? what happened to thongs and tank top squirrel

man you pinned me!

but i was going to a job interview that day..... you know ... unemployed an all, been spendin all day at the beach, cant even think of new threads topics to start these days (sunstroke?), so i have to revive old ones ;)

[Birdman45]

yeah this guys didn't actually say so either, but no way he just plucked me out of a sea of cars and tried running my plate. But anyway....... got a treadly now, so it's bikes and trains to and from the dyno now. LOL

[Birdman45]

as for the speeding deal, in the paper a few months back they polled cops anonimously about a whole heap of stuff and one of them was speeding and fines and safety, 85% answered with that it was revenue only and nothing to do with safety. I mean, if it was so unsafe to speed, why do cops do it all the time, sirens and lights or not?

[Captain]

... because they're 'special', not like the rest of us 'civilians' ...

[xcabbi]

I had a crazy bitch rear end me in the main street of Dapto last week. All because I heard the sirens and saw a highway man in the process of running a red light out of a side street. I locked em up. he pulled out in front of me. I started to take off again and bam right up the sphincter. Her response was "I didn't even have the stereo on and I couldn't hear them". Thank god for towbars.

I always treat emergency situations as "give the coppers as much room as they need". If they are behind you, run the red and give em room, just remember the date and time then right the letter later if its near a red light or speeding camera. If they are coming from the side stop if you can, regardless of the colour of your light. Chances are they are in life and death situations. I'm too sick and tired of watching people just stop in their tracks at a busy intersection when they have an emergency services vehicle behind them.

[drukenhard]

The next time I get pulled over I'm going to ask the cop if I'm being recorded;

If yes I will use my right to silence and not speak to them whatsoever and I will leave (they can chase me if they like)

If no then I will ask them "So what's to stop me taking your gun, locking you in the boot of your car and setting it on fire?" as I pull out my lighter!



Either way I'm not cooperating with these corrupt government fund raisers anymore....they can all go fuck themselves!




And if the RTA thing is true......I will eat their faces

[xcabbi]

faces or faeces?

[drukenhard]

faces...then cover the exposed bits with faeces!

[Birdman45]

xcabbie, the lights and sirens thing was just about if/when they are speeding, they do it all the time so it obviously ain't too much of a problem. All said and done, the problem on the roads is mostly people don't have a f'kin clue, and the sooner they start driving couses as per what they do with bikes now, the better, otherwise, same ol shit every day with people that think they are great coz they don't get booked, what a load of crap. My mrs cannot drive for shit, EVERY day now we are fighting in the car coz I just can't site there while she does what she does, it s painful, yet she has never even been pulled over, never been breath tested, EVER, not ONCE, she wants to do it just for fun (she doesn't drink) but they never stop her, yet she's an accident waiting to happen, but is on the road with no problems, if we have to park somewhere in the realms of being not a fukin football field, I have to park for her she's that bad, yet some rag wipes me out and nearly kills me, changes my life for the worse physically and the rest, and I am taken off the road, it's stupid.

[Dr freedom]

xcabbie, the lights and sirens thing was just about if/when they are speeding, they do it all the time so it obviously ain't too much of a problem. All said and done, the problem on the roads is mostly people don't have a f'kin clue, and the sooner they start driving couses as per what they do with bikes now, the better, otherwise, same ol shit every day with people that think they are great coz they don't get booked, what a load of crap. My mrs cannot drive for shit, EVERY day now we are fighting in the car coz I just can't site there while she does what she does, it s painful, yet she has never even been pulled over, never been breath tested, EVER, not ONCE, she wants to do it just for fun (she doesn't drink) but they never stop her, yet she's an accident waiting to happen, but is on the road with no problems, if we have to park somewhere in the realms of being not a fukin football field, I have to park for her she's that bad, yet some rag wipes me out and nearly kills me, changes my life for the worse physically and the rest, and I am taken off the road, it's stupid.
:lmao: :lmao:

[Skywalker]

Guys I was just reading this thread and I have a quick question.

Lets say a friend of mine may or may not have been riding up on the old road about six months back and passed a highway patrol car and they where a tad over the speed limit. My friend passed the cop doing about 80 in a 60 zone and the police did give chase as his other friends saw the cop car turn and give chase but where unable to catch my friend. My friend never got a fine or had the police come and visit them at thier home. I guess what I am trying to say is don't they have to pull you over in all of these circumstances to prove it was you in the first place?


Skywalker.

[Captain]

They simply record the speed and the numberplate, then ask the owner of the vehicle to nominate the driver / rider. Not that different from a speed camera, really; they do not have to book you on the spot. The only reason they don't do it is because they're too lazy to do the paperwork when they get back to the station.
There's a penalty involved if you do not know who was in control of your vehicle. In fact, if you let someone drive / ride your vehicle you MUST see their licence beforehand.