Dyno day

[en 119]

I heard there will be a dyno day in campbelltown for bikes $50 2 power runs u get a print out and free bbq happening i will find out more today would any body be interested

heres the deal its on 15/11/08 starts at 9am goes to 2pm talk to Joe or Shannon on 0246266857 no need to book just come down Joes a pretty funning bloke u can have a laugh with him and Shannon is a all round top bloke with a head on his shoulders

address:41 Blaxland Rd Campbelltown

[jasonbw]

Yessir !!!

[scott]

yep :ayyy:
when is it?

[Captain]

What's the point? I mean, what use is that?

[Soloarm]

Not sure if this has come from a quick chat we had at Harry's on monday nite but Tex & I were going to put on a Dyno day for RATS.

$50 bucks, 3 power runs, a printout, BBQ lunch and $10 bucks of that goes to RATS.

If this is the one you mean we haven't sorted a date yet but it may be better to do it in Jan as silly season about to start and people are sooooo busy and over commited already but we could do it sooner if you guys wanted us to.

[Soloarm]

What's the point? I mean, what use is that?

Lots Captain!!!

You can get advice, have an idea if you bike is tired or there is room for improvement, I can check maps if PC fitted and make sure the right maps are being used.

And a fun day, we just ran one for the Kawa club and they had a blast. Lots of them had done Dyno days before and thought it was the best one ever, check out their site.

[eden.kwok]

does he work with tuneboy???

[James]

Not sure if this has come from a quick chat we had at Harry's on monday nite but Tex & I were going to put on a Dyno day for RATS.

$50 bucks, 3 power runs, a printout, BBQ lunch and $10 bucks of that goes to RATS.

If this is the one you mean we haven't sorted a date yet but it may be better to do it in Jan as silly season about to start and people are sooooo busy and over commited already but we could do it sooner if you guys wanted us to.


I look forward to this :ayyy:
I'm an inner :)

[Dr freedom]

If your a petrol head of any sort, be it go-kartn, sex toys with 1hp motors attached to them & whatnot, then you will love a dyno day.

The price + the bbq being offered here is an awesome deal! & they are giving back to rats .. I aint ever heard of a deal like this re a dyno day, so the tuners get a big *thumbs up* from me.

[Birdman45]

Don't wanna upset anyone here, but no way of telling if a map is right or not for a bike, just by looking at it, so waste of time, can you tell if a motor is tired now if you haven't got a base line run from when it wasn't ? LOL Go and get a print out of a dyno chart by all means if that floats your boat, but to me, waste of time, it tells you a number that has no bearing on anyone else's unless on the same dyno. So if you wanna go with a mate and compare dicks, great, other than that................... good way to promote a business, not much to do with telling you much about your bike.

[jasonbw]

doesn't it show the delivery of the power in a nice easy to read graph? I've got so much power in this puppy of mine that rolling on happens so quick I honestly can't tell if it should be made smoother, wouldn't this help?

[Birdman45]

well not really, unless you have a major problem. But most bikes now have pretty dramatic peaks etc in their power delivery, and no amount of tuning will change that, it will lift the graph higher but not fill in a hole that is THE BIKE itself, if you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying don't go, ifg you're into that, then have a blast, hope it goes well, but from someone that does this most days, just a dyno run is a great way of getting people to the shop, game over. Here is a graph to show you what I mean, it's a GSXR 600. You would look at ONE of those runs and say "well it has a pretty bad step off at 9K, mapping will help that" and it did, made more power everywhere, but still has the same dips, just at a higher h.p figure now due to the better fueling. Know what I mean?

[Birdman45]

what I am saying is, mapping the bike will smooth it out, if done properly. The curve itself will not change a whole heap, as that is mostly a characteristic of the bike itself or the exhaust system on it etc. If the bike hasn't been mapped, no matter how good you think it is now, it will be better when mapped. But I can tell you that without having to show you a dyno chart of your bike, as alone it means sfa really You really only use a dyno to monitor changes and see if they are better or worse, etc etc, a run chart on it's own is wank factor 10, but again, if you are into that, great, happy for ya.

[en 119]

dyno has a 02 sensor i think that will help most bikes i think it will be handy to know if your a little lean or rich in areas

[Birdman45]

Yeah but that involves blocking hoses, fitting the sensor to the bike, and checking out areas of the map etc, which is not a dyno run, and I dare say won't be $50. Again, if it isn't already mapped I can tell you now 100%, the fueling is out, period. Will be lean in places, will be rich in others, you KNOW that in all certainty right now if it hasn't been mapped already, yet to see a bike on the dyno and roll it off after doing nothing and sday "nup, all good there" LOL But anyway, don't wanna get in the road of a fun day.....

[Captain]

What's this 'mapping' you are speaking of? Does it need buying and fitting of a Power Commander?

[Soloarm]

LOL But anyway, don't wanna get in the road of a fun day.....

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying don't go, ifg you're into that, then have a blast, hope it goes well, but from someone that does this most days, just a dyno run is a great way of getting people to the shop, game over.

So if you wanna go with a mate and compare dicks, great, other than that................... good way to promote a business, not much to do with telling you much about your bike.

:wtf1::wtf1::wtf1:

Whats your problem Birdman:confused1::confused1::confused1:

you are turning a fun day in to a bash Tex & Jenn & rip the piss out of members, we take pride in always showing respect to our peers in this industry, firstly i explained it in KISS terms as RATS aren't all pro racers, it is a fun day and another reason to get together.

Secondly you live eat and sleep dyno's, good on ya but most people don't have an idea and secondly we are members of RATS too!!! So show some respect just for that.

Quiet happy not to run it if thats the attitude, and if you want to educate membes on Dyno's start a thread don't use us to make your point.

[Captain]

I'm sorry I asked ... :o
Please understand I was purely trying to understand how it works, I certainly meant nothing more by it.

[motoplast]

A dyno is a machine that can do more than just power runs, with a good operator it can be an awsome diagnostic machine, hence why they are often called a rolling road. If ur bike has a speedo sensor at the rear wheel or countershaft then we can also check for speedo error, on a rough average, it is not uncommon to find most jap bikes around 10% speedo fast at 100kph. If an electronic speedo is fitted (most current bikes are electronic) this is an easy fix with a speedo healer. It will also help to know if ur bike is running crisp, it is not hard to tell if a bike is tired, previous base lines aren't needed for that. If u are out for performance only and u are doing mod's, sure use the same Dyno' all the time so u have a real base line to work from. Not all Dyno's read the same 'specially if they are different brands, have weather stations etc.
Yes, having a Dyno day is a fun day & u will learn a little about ur bike, it's performance & how it compares to similar models etc. This day is a social day, not a "let's tune for performance, I am racing for a world championship tomorrow" day!. No one is twisting arms to come.:confused1:

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

[James]

I for one can't wait as it will be a new experience for me and will be there with bells on :ayyy:
woohoo :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[Soloarm]

I'm sorry I asked ... :o
Please understand I was purely trying to understand how it works, I certainly meant nothing more by it.


:confused1::confused1:

Hey Captain this is exactly what its for, so guys can learn a little about Dyno's............not to turn you all into tuners for Repsol Honda...........ask away dude.

If thats okay with you Birdman45???

[scott]

lots of conflict here lately. :argue:

:confused1:

[Soloarm]

lots of conflict here lately. :argue:

:confused1:

Yeap Scottie, sad when all you do is offer some services as members and others see fit to shoot u down in flames........not what RATS is about.

[en 119]

Soloarm take it easy mate Birdman knows just ask him lol

[Soloarm]

Soloarm take it easy mate Birdman knows just ask him lol


:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
Good one buddy, I'm cool, spat now fine,....... up to RATS, we were asked, stepped up to the plate, sooooooooooooooooooo up to members and Admin if they want the day.

[Stu23]

I dont care who you are BUT when you listen to a bike on a DYNO for the very 1st time........it is AMAZING.......if you havnt heard / experienced it before......its worth it just for that :)

[Dr freedom]

"tuna warz"- Brought to you by Safcol.

Maybe this needs to be deleted & a new thread with all the info for the day started

[Underground]

http://warisboring.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/f9cc829ae0b529241778cbc6134fbbcc.jpg

[Dr freedom]

lol undies mate, .. I knew you couldnt hack not posting in this one

[Underground]

lol undies mate, .. I knew you couldnt hack not posting in this one

It seems i've become terribly predictable :Kat00:

[DAVID]

I dont care who you are BUT when you listen to a bike on a DYNO for the very 1st time........it is AMAZING.......if you havnt heard / experienced it before......its worth it just for that :)

+1

[Pirate]

That was an interesting read....

Anyway, back to the original question...
This is posted on the FX site, so I guess that is what the first post was enquiring about.??
(go with TJ's, if your into it, its cheaper..)

DYNO DAY IN CAMPBELLTOWN NSW U GET A COMPUTER PRINT OUT AND A COUPLE DYNO RUNS $50 FREE BBQ ITS AT 41 BLAXLAND ROAD CAMPBELLTOWN ON THE 15/11/08 NO NEED TO BOOK JUST ROLL UP*
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....
.Rego and/or VIN Number:. *(Must Have If Road Bike)
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Additional details website address.
.Suburb:. CAMPBELLTOWN ...State:NSW*
.PostCode:. 2560*
.Advertisement type:. Private

[blade runner]

Tex count me in bro( you can dyno a Deltek rockhopper cant you?)

[WHITTNEY]

Tex count me in bro( you can dyno a Deltek rockhopper cant you?)

tex cant dyno a deltek rockhopper but he probably can dyno a deckson rockhopper lol

note no payout intended just a correction of brand name ok !!:ayyy:

cheers

whittney

[motoplast]

Tex count me in bro( you can dyno a Deltek rockhopper cant you?)

Of course I can, U will win a prize for lowest H.P. or biggest loser! depending how u see it!!.:lmao::lmao::lmao:.

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

[Pirate]

I hear those Sachs Madass 125 things are good for about 7hp...

[Birdman45]

Soloarm, like I said, I DIDN'T WANT TO OR NEVER MEANT TO SPOIL THE DAY OR PUT IT DOWN, all I was pointing out was exactly what I said. AGAIN, If you are into that, go for it, have a great day, hope you all have a blast. BUT I do have a "THREAD" on here about it as you posted I should have, it's called sponsoring the site and I have a whole section all about it, but anyway, AGAIN, hope you have a great day, and everyone has fun, never suggested otherwise. But don't get upset with facts, and don't shoot the messenger. Have fun

[Torque]

dyno threads are good always end in a argument :lmao:

dude said was waste of time probably right but so is wasting a tank of juice in the mountains but its a a lot of fun

other dude wants to put on a day for fun been to one and we all had fun

relax and make it fun for everyone

[Soloarm]

Soloarm, like I said, I DIDN'T WANT TO OR NEVER MEANT TO SPOIL THE DAY OR PUT IT DOWN, all I was pointing out was exactly what I said. AGAIN, If you are into that, go for it, have a great day, hope you all have a blast. BUT I do have a "THREAD" on here about it as you posted I should have, it's called sponsoring the site and I have a whole section all about it, but anyway, AGAIN, hope you have a great day, and everyone has fun, never suggested otherwise. But don't get upset with facts, and don't shoot the messenger. Have fun


I wasn't getting up set at facts mate, just how you chose to go about it, and correct me if I 'm wrong how did you go from the source to "just the messenger"

Start a new thread "Birdman45 how to win friends and influence people"

[Mr Bones]

Well the shit is flying people!!! :stirthepot:

I'll come along for the day Tex :ayyy: will be good to catch up with some people as well as meet some new ones. I think thats the main reason anyway.
:confused1:

I'd like to through my bike up there & see what happens because I've got no idea about dyno's or what my bike puts out. Will be interesting to see where it peaks & drops and if it's running ok.

[dazzler]

i dont wanna step on toes here....

but if i was to go to this and see where my bike is not performing at its best....

i would then book it into Mr Birdman45(thee original) to get it all straightened out for smoothness

so from where i sit it really is a win/win situation as such!!!!

people find out whats wrong with their bikes and book birdman45 in to fix said problem...

can this not be the case????

[Captain]

Yes, well except that IF I understand it right you should stick to the ONE dyno ... so that if you find something amiss (or something you simply wish to improve) once you have made the modification you need to go back to the original dyno to check it again.

Is this right or am I confused? Do different dynos really give different results :confused1:

[Marcus]

What really matters the most if there is a prize for the "winner"

[Dr freedom]

Is this right or am I confused? Do different dynos really give different results :confused1:
Yes.
Some will be close, some are shockers

[muzz]

last time i did a power run on a dyno i limped out of there with a burnt valve
and oil dripping out of my exhaust (turbo charged gpz)
50 odd bucks turned into 1500 with no idea what happened

[motoplast]

last time i did a power run on a dyno i limped out of there with a burnt valve
and oil dripping out of my exhaust (turbo charged gpz)
50 odd bucks turned into 1500 with no idea what happened

Bad dyno operator!?! (In most cases,if it blows up on a Dyno' it would have shit itself on the road)

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

[muzz]

yes and no
holding a engine under full load ,while under full boost while its missing and poppin and not knowing what the engines doing aint a good thing either

[en 119]

not tryin to advertise a business i took my crf450 down was runnin shit they put it on the dyno and sorted it within an hour running awesome alot of time saved with trying jets etc on the track thats all it helped me thought it could help others that are having dramas

GET OVER IT

[Birdman45]

agreed, on all counts, like I said to begin with, not trying to ruin a day or say you won't have fun meeting people and hearing your bike hit the limiter a few times, YAY........... hope again, that everyone has a ball. ALL I SAID WAS , after a few people posted various things about why they wanted to do it, ie: Bones said he wanted to go and see if there are any problems with the bike, and if it can be made better, now, if there was a PROBLEM, he'd know about it.......... can it be better? if it hasn't already been mapped properly then of course it can, and again, you don't need to do runs on a dyno to know it. THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.

as for my winning friends, LOL I already know that I piss people off, I am a master at it, I don't mean to , I just say how it is. If people don't like it, then so be it, but what I wouldn't do is have a dyno day to "help people" or "make sure their bike is ok", when really it is about drumming up business for said dyno, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, either, but lets not hide behind or beat around the bush by making it FOR THE PEOPLE. Bike shops don't have test ride days with the intent on letting you ride bike you otherwise may not ride , just so you can say "great, thanks, always wanted to ride that, now I have" now do they? LOL They do it so you will buy a bike. AGAIN, I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE DYNO DAY IN ITSELF, I HOPE IT GOES WELL AND EVERYONE HAS A GREAT DAY, all I am doing is pointing out some stuff that was being over looked, for want of a better way to put it.

On a side note, on another forum, the owners changed my sig to "forget the dickhead way I come across and just ask". That should tell you something. hahaha

[blade runner]

Birdman, I dont normally get involved in all this he said she said shit!! But i am offended by you assumption that Tex and Jen were offering this dyno day for some sort of gain!!!. You obviously dont know these people real well pal do you?? Tex ,(in case you arnt aware ) lives breathes and drinks bikes( and the biking fraternity and has done for many many years. he has helped me out personally and im sure there are hundreds of others that can say the same at no charge!!!

In Short pal dont make assumptions or Accusations that are unfounded or un warranted!!! Bob

[Soloarm]

Birdman45 :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

That has actually made me laugh............ and I'm not being sarcastic, all cool if thats how you operate I get it & you can assume what you like thats your right. Cheers mate I'[ll buy you a beer one day and we can have a laugh and talk dyno shit:lmao::lmao::lmao:I'm always up for a good debate and to learn something. :ayyy:

[Soloarm]

Birdman, I dont normally get involved in all this he said she said shit!! But i am offended by you assumption that Tex and Jen were offering this dyno day for some sort of gain!!!. You obviously dont know these people real well pal do you?? Tex ,(in case you arnt aware ) lives breathes and drinks bikes( and the biking fraternity and has done for many many years. he has helped me out personally and im sure there are hundreds of others that can say the same at no charge!!!

In Short pal dont make assumptions or Accusations that are unfounded or un warranted!!! Bob

Thanks Bob:ayyy:

[SLAC]

WHO GIVES A F*#K.... ENOUGH HEY? Both know what there doing, take ya pick and use who you want..

[DAVID]

Lets get back to bike stuff & bull shit:stirthepot:

[blade runner]

Lets get back to bike stuff & bull shit:stirthepot:

Yeh good idea David lol ill go back to building my tricycle:confused1::dohsmiley::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[clarkey]

Birdman, I dont normally get involved in all this he said she said shit!! But i am offended by you assumption that Tex and Jen were offering this dyno day for some sort of gain!!!. You obviously dont know these people real well pal do you?? Tex ,(in case you arnt aware ) lives breathes and drinks bikes( and the biking fraternity and has done for many many years. he has helped me out personally and im sure there are hundreds of others that can say the same at no charge!!!

In Short pal dont make assumptions or Accusations that are unfounded or un warranted!!! Bob

Easy Bob....dont read more into it mate communication isnt Trev ,s strong point ,Dyno tuning is and you would be hard trying to find a better tuner but hey if Tex and co are willing to put on a show to try and promote there business for a bit if fun im all for it and its great to see a few bike shops/tuning shops go the extra mile and i welcome that refreshing attitude towards ALL our favourite Addiction-Actually applaud it ,Well done Tex Bundy and Solar :clap:
I get my bikes tuned by Trev as a lot of u s here have but id love to come say GDay and check you guys out

[blade runner]

All good Clarkey:ayyy:

[Captain]

For what it's worth, I see nothing wrong with promotion. After all, it gives people a way to get to know the vendor, we need good vendors as much as they need customers, so it's a 2-way street. We all live in the real world, I'm sure most of us thought this was a good day AND a promotion ... but I certainly don't see anything wrong with that, there's nothing sneaky about it. At least that's how I read it.

Similarly, I appreciated Birdman 45's comments, I didn't see anything negative in them, they were technical and they gave me at least a better understanding of the process. I was suprised that you took offence soloarm, it certainly didn't seem to me that it was meant that way (and made me feel bad for having asked the question to begin with) :ayyy:

All is good I hope.

[Soloarm]

its all good guys, I just felt some of the comments as highlighted in my original post after Birdman to be a bit on the nose to us and RATS members......just thought it could have been put a little more politely thats all, had my say thats it.

I have respect for Birdmans last post and his honesty re his mannerisims and from my point of veiw he does know his stuff........our motivation for a Dyno day is purely for a learning op for for those who know very little and want an experience in a fun relaxed atmosphere.............it gets bogged down with tech talk and gets intimidating at some bigger shops. We wanted to have FUN!!!

Thats it in a nutshell...........can we put this to bed now.

[James]

So when will this day be Tex & Jen ?

[Soloarm]

So when will this day be Tex & Jen ?

January............rest of Nov and Dec way to busy for us all to book in anymore events etc.......will advise date after admin looks at Jan calender for us.

Cheers

[motoplast]

So when will this day be Tex & Jen ?

I'll get back to u shortly with a firm date, I'll check with Vinnie so we don't clash with any organised rides, I was thinking on a Sunday, late January early February. Positive feedback welcomed!.

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

[Dean93]

I'll be there. :ayyy:

[James]

I'll get back to u shortly with a firm date, I'll check with Vinnie so we don't clash with any organised rides, I was thinking on a Sunday, late January early February. Positive feedback welcomed!.

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy

Look forward to it :ayyy:

[blade runner]

looking forward to it !!!:Kat00::clap:

[Birdman45]

All tuycked away and nicely in bed. LOL It's all good, as Captain said, how I say things always gets taken the wrong way, must be how I say them............. but anwyay, I might even come out and say Hi on the day too if I can make it. Give them a hand if they have heaps there and too much to do, whatever........... the FUN of the day was never in question, nor was Tex or anyones agenders or whatever, just calling a spade a spade and pointing some things out that may be not thought of or understood etc. all good.

[Pirate]

Really..??



LOL Go and get a print out of a dyno chart by all means if that floats your boat, but to me, waste of time, it tells you a number that has no bearing on anyone else's unless on the same dyno. So if you wanna go with a mate and compare dicks, great, other than that................... good way to promote a business, not much to do with telling you much about your bike.

[Birdman45]

yep............. what I said was exactly right. IF THAT FLOATS YOUR BOAT, then have a great day. Don't start me again, I didn't mean to cause dramas, just pointing out exactly what you quoted there, if I was wrong, and it's all about helping people, then so be it. I have too much on to hold a day purely for the benefit of letting people see their bike on a dyno, but if Tex wants to do it, great........... good on him. I would do it to promote the business, but that's me. In saying that anyone is welcome to come down and watch me do anyone's bike on the dyno if that is what you wanna see, any day, any bike, for free......... but it seems the day is more about getting people together and having fun, and so great......... sure it will be

[blade runner]

Lets just put this thread to bed!!!

[Birdman45]

I was already tucked in and nodding off. Haha He had to belt me with his pillow though didn't he.

[Soloarm]

I was already tucked in and nodding off. Haha He had to belt me with his pillow though didn't he.

Hey come on boys, Birdman & I are sharing a pillow..........:lmao::lmao::lmao:and Birdman you would be more than welcome, we could have that Beer. You can teach me dyno's, I'll teach you social skills:lmao::lmao:

[clarkey]

Hey come on boys, Birdman & I are sharing a pillow..........:lmao::lmao::lmao:and Birdman you would be more than welcome, we could have that Beer. You can teach me dyno's, I'll teach you social skills:lmao::lmao:

Soloarm , not enough hours in a day, teching trev social skills that is :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Birdman45]

and clarkey to spell. Haha oops, there I go again. You'd wanna be a f'kin great teacher soloarm.

and I'll only be there if it's ook with tex etc, I don't wanna tread on toes, sounds out there I know, but hey..... haha

[motoplast]

and clarkey to spell. Haha oops, there I go again. You'd wanna be a f'kin great teacher soloarm.

and I'll only be there if it's ook with tex etc, I don't wanna tread on toes, sounds out there I know, but hey..... haha


Ha, ha, Jen is a top Dog Behavioural Specialist, her skills are slowly working on me:lmao:......so there is hope!:lmao::lmao:

I have no drama about u being present on the day, it would be good to share the workload/questions/knowledge etc.
This will be a great social/fun day for all to enjoy.:mod_smilie_rockwoot

Cheers,
Tex & Bundy