Track Day Bookings...

[Kris]

Guys,

Just passing on the word from alot of friends that are RATs members who are paying and constantly missing out (despite saying they paid in the thread when spots were available) for track days...

I think the system needs a bit of a revamp given the increasing popularity of track days and the increasing members..

What about something like paypal? Instant payment, apparently you can even keep a stock style inventory of the spots available so the system will tell you its full?? I think having a few guys manage this in their spare time (I know you guys do a great job and are snowed under) is getting a bit old and certainly frustrating for members..Something more automated would be ideal. Save everyone time, money and frustration :D

Comments??

Feel free to flame me.

[Underground]

Feel free to flame me.

Morning arsehole - who are your friends, and why have they thrown you to the wolves on this one?

Also, are they following the directions in this thread? http://www.nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=587

Also, there are contact numbers for the organisers Mick, John and Andrew...its possible to give your friendly trackday organisers a call if there is a chance you may miss out, or you've paid but not recieved an email confirmation.

I dont believe more cooks in the kitchen could possibly help this situation any.

Love,
UG.

[veitch-y]

Easy way to be sure not to miss out is go direct to ECRD . If you do five track days the sixth is half price so in terms of cost it gets it back down to around the same and I am sure Rats will not miss out filling spots as like you say there is plenty of interest .

[Kris]

You always shows me the love UG :D

Not really saying we need more cooks, just a better organisated kitchen :D

[Underground]

just a better organisated kitchen :D

I think whilst its a service and not for profit one at that to members here, the organisatedness needs to be a two way street.

If in doubt, pick up the phone - by sending payment in, they've obviously recieved the initial payment details PM, if you're not getting a response a quick call should fix it, or highlight any deficiencies.

Running a paypal account incurrs fees, and would add to the double handling processes required for the boys to book the trackdays.

Spreading the responsibility around and opening up communication lines not only fosters love for your fellow members, but hones seemingly overlooked life skillz.

[Johnny]

WHy book through Rats then ?


Sorry, forgot, they offer and pass on the discount to you for nothing more than a headache, any idea how time consuming effort it would take ?, for nothing more than a thank you mind you, they dont make any profit off it.

Fricken tightarse's, admit it, it is the only reaosn you's book through Rats , is cause your fricken tigharse's who stands to take advantage of the discount they PASS on to you...


Thank You for all the time and effort on members behalf would be much more fitting I'd say.


Oh, and I havent even started flaming yet :lmao:

[Kris]

Im trying to make it easier, i'm sure people wouldnt mind paying $2 more or something to have a automated payment system that allows Mick and Co to do other things than emailing people back!

Anyway forget it :D Lets just live with it... I dont care really, just trying to make the world a better place :)

Ill shutup

[Chaser]

I've had a few issues with a track day I just booked and KAT00 was straight on the phone after I sent him a PM. He couldn't have been more helpful. Well done KAT00. KAT00 for PM I say!

[Kris]

Everyone is happy again

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1087/543768858_20d780132d.jpg

[Johnny]

Im trying to make it easier, i'm sure people wouldnt mind paying $2 more or something to have a automated payment system that allows Mick and Co to do other things than emailing people back!
Already exists... http://www.easterncreekridedays.com.au/category_product.php :p



Anyway forget it :D Lets just live with it... I dont care really, just trying to make the world a better place :)

Ill shutup
Your an IT geek ( your own words :p), set something up and deliver then :)

[Kris]

I could :) but I've been shot down!

[Bigdog]

Guys,

Just passing on the word from alot of friends that are RATs members who are paying and constantly missing out (despite saying they paid in the thread when spots were available) for track days...

I think the system needs a bit of a revamp given the increasing popularity of track days and the increasing members..

What about something like paypal? Instant payment, apparently you can even keep a stock style inventory of the spots available so the system will tell you its full?? I think having a few guys manage this in their spare time (I know you guys do a great job and are snowed under) is getting a bit old and certainly frustrating for members..Something more automated would be ideal. Save everyone time, money and frustration :D

Comments??

Feel free to flame me.

I have been away for 1 month on holidays and Kat00 has been organising 2 months worth of EC bookings by himself as well as day to day webmaster duties and he still has to find time to do his extremly busy full time job.
We are restricted to only 40 positions per month and these positions have been selling out 7 weeks in advance. You have no hope if you leave it to the last couple of weeks before a trackday to decide to book with us.
YOU NEED TO BOOK AND PAY EARLY to get a spot these days.
If we do as you say and have an automated system, we would be inundated with too many bookings and the problem will be even worse as more people will miss out.
I am now back on ship and everything will be back to normal from now on. Oran Park is nearly finished up, so Vinnie will also be helping with next years bookings.
With the restrictions placed upon us and the amount of people wanting to do trackdays with us, we are doing the best we can.

[Johnny]

Restrictions is not only placed on Rats btw, same goes for all forums.
Not because they are loosing money by offerring group discounts, but has been proven time and time again, the more riders seeking bragging rights on a forum booking on the same day, the more carnage..

[SIX36]

Maybe limit track day bookings to a certain post count like selling items, plenty of people just sign up for TD's with no other input?

[Kris]

bigdog, hopefully the guys missing out are reading what you've written and will book earlier - I personally have had no dramas :)

I know you guys are swamped!

[Underground]

plenty of people just sign up for TD's with no other input?

Plenty of people post with no input too.




:lmao:

[SIX36]

Yes UG we know what u do, no need to explain yourself...

[Johnny]

Maybe limit track day bookings to a certain post count like selling items, plenty of people just sign up for TD's with no other input?

Not sure on the post count idea, as will encourage whoring, and would also mean Underground and I would qualify for atleast 2 free trackdays already :lmao::lmao:

But agree'd 100%, there are even these so called 'members' with no other input, book in with +2 of their mates who aint even members here. More than likely reading this getting offended that I call them tightarses, truth hurts an all :p

[Bigdog]

Not sure on the post count idea, as will encourage whoring, and would also mean Underground and I would qualify for atleast 2 free trackdays already :lmao::lmao:

But agree'd 100%, there are even these so called 'members' with no other input, book in with +2 of their mates who aint even members here.

This is definately an issue we will be addressing with next years bookings.

[Underground]

Yes UG we know what u do, no need to explain yourself...

Well, I wish I could post up questions like - what size are my axle bolts, and how do I get smileys on my Iphone...but I'm just not that good.

[SIX36]

Well, I wish I could post up questions like - what size are my axle bolts, and how do I get smileys on my Iphone...but I'm just not that good.

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[Linden]

Yes UG we know what u do, no need to explain yourself...

I disagree .... he needs to "please explain" :stirthepot:

[Underground]

I disagree .... he needs to "please explain" :stirthepot:

Pm me your questions, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

[Captain]

I don't think there's a need to get stuck into Kris, he's only asking a question and making a suggestion. Not every suggestion will be adopted, but at least he's making a contribution. This place is run for the benefit of the members and IMO the admins do a bloody good job - that's not to say that things don't ocassionally go wrong - regradless of where the fault (if any) lies.

There's always a better way, and as Bigdog hinted there will be some changes next year (nothing to worry about I'm sure).

Anyhow I just wanted to stick up for Kris, I remember someone criticised us for having a culture that doesn't allow any criticism or any comments that aren't the majority view, and it would be a shame if it were really true.

[Underground]

I don't think there's a need to get stuck into Kris, he's only asking a question and making a suggestion.

On my planet, Arsehole is an affectionate term...kind of like 'Sweetheart' here on earth.

I thought I was rather civil, and provided a helpful insight?...

[Kris]

haha thanks Julian :)

I just wanted to get the ideas following and voice some of the concerns of fellow RATs members....

[Johnny]

Captain, Kris asked for it by ending opening post with flame away, we just didnt want to dissapoint him :lmao:


Sorry Kris mate, spent near three hrs in hospital last night to walk away with nothing but arm in sling and some panadeine forte, Im a grumpier old bastard than usual today :lmao:
Bastards, couldve given me some real drugs, that panadeine shit does nothing but constipate me :cursing: :lmao:

[Kris]

haha dont apologise mate ;) It's cool...You need drugs? I have some endone laying around somewhere...

[Johnny]

Thanx but all good (I'll live), thanx all the same mate.. :ayyy:

[Captain]

Crap Johnny ... that shoulder has really turned that nasty? I'm sorry to hear about it. Didn't you stuff it up helping some ungrateful woman?

[wheelieBIN]

Sorry Kris mate, spent near three hrs in hospital last night to walk away with nothing but arm in sling and some panadeine forte, Im a grumpier old bastard than usual today :lmao:
Bastards, couldve given me some real drugs, that panadeine shit does nothing but constipate me :cursing: :lmao:

Getting your drugs for free these days.... You're getting smarter JohnnyBhoy....:Kat00::Kat00::piss2::piss2:

[SIX36]

Just don't go to Hornsby Hospital you will get better medical support at Woolies at Thornleigh.

[Belinda]

spent near three hrs in hospital last night to walk away with nothing but arm in sling and some panadeine forte, Im a grumpier old bastard than usual today :lmao:
Bastards, couldve given me some real drugs, that panadeine shit does nothing but constipate me :cursing: :lmao:

I've eaten marshmallows harder than you! :stirthepot:

[Underground]

I've eaten marshmallows harder than you! :stirthepot:

:lmao:

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[Hammo]

Morning arsehole - who are your friends, and why have they thrown you to the wolves on this one?

Kris and I were discussing my failure to read the instructions properly this morning over coffee - I may be one of them.


Also, are they following the directions in this thread? http://www.nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=587

Skimmed it, but missed the bit about PMing the right person. Which explains why I couldn't find the bank details. I looked around, and did what I perceived to be right. Happy to admit that I should have read it properly, and I have only myself to blame.

In regard to perhaps limiting track day attendance to those with a history of contribution to the forum - to be honest, it's what attracted me here in the first place - hadn't even heard of EC track days before someone told me about this site. And on the paypal thing, I friggin hate bank transfers and would happily pay a handling fee to use something more convenient, surely from an organiser's perspective there has to be an easier way to run this with automation......?

Here's one I spotted online which seems to look quite good: http://bookatrack.com/-pE_Trackday-Calendar.html

[Falco]

Ohh its a familiar tune isnt it!

.....but know one complains when they want to sell their spot at the last minute cause it might rain or swap it for another date.
What about those issues that cause all sorts of hassels for Admin and early morning phone calls cause some dick cant be registered down at EC when the sparrows fart.
If was me....if you bought it, you own it.

Its real simple, as stated at the beginning of each TD booking thread it states "get you money in quick as bookings are filling fast".
It no good to anyone trying to get in at the last minute

So if the ship sales dont whinge about it, you lot where told!

[Jake]

Bastards, couldve given me some real drugs, that panadeine shit does nothing but constipate me :cursing: :lmao:
Oh noes, so you'll be even more full of shit than usual!? :confused1: :stirthepot: :lmao:

[Kris]

Kris and I were discussing my failure to read the instructions properly this morning over coffee - I may be one of them.



Skimmed it, but missed the bit about PMing the right person. Which explains why I couldn't find the bank details. I looked around, and did what I perceived to be right. Happy to admit that I should have read it properly, and I have only myself to blame.

In regard to perhaps limiting track day attendance to those with a history of contribution to the forum - to be honest, it's what attracted me here in the first place - hadn't even heard of EC track days before someone told me about this site. And on the paypal thing, I friggin hate bank transfers and would happily pay a handling fee to use something more convenient, surely from an organiser's perspective there has to be an easier way to run this with automation......?

Here's one I spotted online which seems to look quite good: http://bookatrack.com/-pE_Trackday-Calendar.html

That bookatrack is cool!!

[zRoYz]

What's funny about this thread isn't the replies but the stupidity of humans.

The system is already stream lines what isn't stream lines is the variable of the moronic individual who simply can't read or fill out a form correctly with relevant information.

Track days as stated book out in most cases 7 weeks before hand so as soon as a track day booking thread is posted if you want in you click on the link, fill in form correctly & then proceed to your internet banking & pay immediately taking due care to also fill in correct information as stated every booking thread. Internet banking takes max 3 days to show into RATS account & it works if you can't use internet banking go to a branch & do direct deposit which shows money almost immediately. If you can't do either of those two types of payment then book else where.

[Kat00]

Kris and I were discussing my failure to read the instructions properly this morning over coffee - I may be one of them.


Oh, I knew you would be one of the " friends"

First post
= Hammo First timer BOOKED/PAID for Group C.

So you announce to the world that you have arrived and you want to do a trackday.

No G'day, No PM to me to tell me about yourself, nothing.

You expect me to part with $191.00 to pay for you up front, cash in advance on the basis of you making one post on this forum in the hope that you pay us and then have the audicity to suggest to us to change our system

Fact of the matter is that the Trackday in question was booked out on the 11/11 and I posted that in the thread. Your money went into our account on 16/11

I am the first to admit that our system is not perfect, far from it but its as good as it can get.

About 8 out of 150 bookings since October have been told that we could't get them in, 3 of which were refunded the other 5 were happy to move to another date.

Out of all the members who got the short end of the straw and missed their preferred tracday was Hitcho73, he PMed me and specfically stated that he had paid, under normal circumstances I would pay for him in advance, but I missed his PM.

For those of you who who aren't happy, you can alway go and pay ECRD $229.00

Enjoy.

[rumz]

Kris & Buddy,,,

If you don't like the system then use the EC ridedays setup....

Easy.

[Kris]

Thank you, you're contribution was most welcome :) lol

[Pict]

Haha, I think everyone is getting a little too hot under the collar.

We're all mates remember :ayyy:

[Kris]

Pict, what beer do you drink mate, ill bring a few out on Sunday...

[zRoYz]

We are implementing a new system, I will be vetting all bookings & depending what mood I'm in or if you have posted something on the forum that has annoyed me or even ride any bike but a Honda you wont be booked in :lmao::lmao:

[Underground]

if you have posted something on the forum that has annoyed me

Phew, I'm safe.

[zRoYz]

Phew, I'm safe.

Yes you are because you offer cookies.....I like cookies :)

[triumph]

We are implementing a new system, I will be vetting all bookings & depending what mood I'm in or if you have posted something on the forum that has annoyed me or even ride any bike but a Honda you wont be booked in :lmao::lmao: in that case there wont be many bookings then.:lmao:

[Kris]

Awesome, so sounds like ill always get a spot as I have TWO Honda's but may loose points because I'm sure i'm good at pissing Roy off :)

[Underground]

Awesome, so sounds like ill always get a spot as I have TWO Honda's but may loose points because I'm sure i'm good at pissing Roy off :)

Here's 1048 other potential reasons you may get black balled - http://www.nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/search.php?searchid=738698

[Pict]

Anything but stout ;)

Two pages ago everyone was bitching, and now everyone is friends again.

The Circle of Life, friends. The Circle of Life.

[Kris]

damnit :( why so serious!

UG, you fail at the interwebz

[Johnny]

Mr 848, you guessed it, was at Hornsby hospital.

Captain, Ive broke shoulder years ago, has never been the same since, and falling over like a crumpet on it in a very awkward position really, well hurt :lmao:


Belinda, please lets not go there with the marshmellows, as wheeliebin will know, oh no, I'll shut up now :lmao: :lmao:

To the rest of you :mod_smilie_bj: me

[Underground]

The Circle of Life, friends. The Circle of Life.

Rub my nipples?

[Belinda]

falling over like a crumpet on it in a very awkward position really, well hurt :lmao:


It hasn't been that windy of late :confused1:





:stirthepot:

[Johnny]

Getting your drugs for free these days.... You're getting smarter JohnnyBhoy....:Kat00::Kat00::piss2::piss2:

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Never payed off mate, I tried though :dohsmiley::lmao:

[Belinda]

Belinda, please lets not go there with the marshmellows, as wheeliebin will know, oh no, I'll shut up now :lmao: :lmao:

To the rest of you :mod_smilie_bj: me

See! Lesson learnt.....if you post and not just expect cheap td's then you get spared from :mod_smilie_bj: Johnny!

[Pict]

Irrelevant: I just farted and hot chick walked over to discuss something with me.

God damnit.

[Johnny]

It hasn't been that windy of late :confused1:





:stirthepot:


You'll keep :spank:





:lmao:

[Captain]

I might be wrong then .... next time I will wait to see what eventuates. I defended Kris because he seemed to raise a concern ... which appeared valid (in that they had paid and then missed out). I also assumed that they were RATS you were speaking on behalf of, and whilst they sound like they are, Kat00's comments warrant consideration. If the money went into the account 5 days after he posted up that it was full, then what do you expect?

I might have spoken too soon ... Kris having met you, I still don't doubt you meant well, so that still stands but it sounds like there's more to this than met the eye. I withdraw my comments, and let the better informed carry on with the discussion.

[Kris]

:) Julian, in this case, the guys deposited the funds and posted a message in the thread BEFORE it was closed.. But, obviously just a bit too slow they were.. the issue might also be lag time before deposits clearing...

[RobotPimp]

:n: Fuck Eastern Creek! Let's just build our own track!

[Underground]

:n: Fuck Eastern Creek! Let's just build our own track!

Will it be a track, or a farm? or a driveway? or an enclosed circuit? would we be able to call it a track? What about ripple strips?

[Captain]

We are implementing a new system, I will be vetting all bookings & depending what mood I'm in or if you have posted something on the forum that has annoyed me or even ride any bike but a Honda you wont be booked in :lmao::lmao:
Did I mention that I'm Casey Stoner's number 1 supporter mate :D
I knew my criticism will come back to bite me :dohsmiley:

[RobotPimp]

I'm actually in the process of constructing a "private road" on my property...

As soon as the Cat D7 is finished with my MX track next week then the "private road" construction begins!

And any trackday promoters can go fuck themselves! It's going to be a "private road" with personal invitation only at no charge!

[HYPE]

Hdgsrxctc sjjcysga hjdy dskdyu ssytfny dhhcy.

[Belinda]

As soon as the Cat D7 is finished with my MX track next week then the "private road" construction begins!



With some of that terrain we could have a Corkscrew....a la Leguna Seca! :mod_smilie_rockwoot


Fill in those wombat holes though...........:ayyy:

[Kris]

With some of that terrain we could have a Corkscrew....a la Leguna Seca! :mod_smilie_rockwoot


Fill in those wombat holes though...........:ayyy:

It would be no use to you B, you never ride anymore :)

[Johnny]

It would be no use to you B, you never ride anymore :)

She prefers sticking balls in holes.. 18 times a day at that :confused1:




:stirthepot:

[RobotPimp]

With some of that terrain we could have a Corkscrew....a la Leguna Seca! :mod_smilie_rockwoot


Fill in those wombat holes though...........:ayyy:

But then I wouldn't have an excuse for crashing Turtle's new EXC300... like last time! :lmao:

[Foghorn]

I've booked plenty of TD's through Kat00 (Mick) this year and have not missing out once. Granted my last TD was the 7th of November and I missed out on B2 (Mick was away for the weekend) he was apologetic offered me up "C" which I took. No harm done, I did the first session in "C" and had Andrew move up to B2 from the 2nd session.

Kris I've read your posts with interest and despite the fact that we have yet to meet you seem like a decent bloke...........but forgive me for saying this, there seems to be some members who love to keep on bleeting about anything and everything.

I have said it before and I will say it again instead of giving the likes of Kat00, Vinnie & Bigdog a "Jab in the Face" how about giving them a well deserved "Slap on the Back"
These few give up their time for the benefit of the many.......maybe these bleeters should move on to another flock.

Foghorn's just got a little bit riled

[Belinda]

She prefers sticking balls in holes.. 18 times a day at that :confused1:




:stirthepot:

Hey! I rode to golf....and learnt the hard way about not using Loctite on gear levers.. try getting a 600 around Illawong in 6th....:hatter:

[zRoYz]

Hey! I rode to golf....and learnt the hard way about not using Loctite on gear levers.. try getting a 600 around Illawong in 6th....:hatter:

That would have been :lmao: you know now loctite is to stop things moving.

[Johnny]

:dohsmiley: :lmao: :lmao:

[Captain]

Which reminds me, I need to adjust my rearsets (they have loctite too) :dohsmiley:

[Belinda]

That would have been :lmao: you know now loctite is to stop things moving.

Yeah! and my driveway is so steep that a fully laden wheelie bin requires brakes.

Now! back to the 'private road' where RBP gets to play God..... the payment terms could be scary......

[SIX36]

If its a first time bank transfer to a certain person it take 3 days approx to clear there after its pretty much with in 1 working day....

[Kris]

I've booked plenty of TD's through Kat00 (Mick) this year and have not missing out once. Granted my last TD was the 7th of November and I missed out on B2 (Mick was away for the weekend) he was apologetic offered me up "C" which I took. No harm done, I did the first session in "C" and had Andrew move up to B2 from the 2nd session.

Kris I've read your posts with interest and despite the fact that we have yet to meet you seem like a decent bloke...........but forgive me for saying this, there seems to be some members who love to keep on bleeting about anything and everything.

I have said it before and I will say it again instead of giving the likes of Kat00, Vinnie & Bigdog a "Jab in the Face" how about giving them a well deserved "Slap on the Back"
These few give up their time for the benefit of the many.......maybe these bleeters should move on to another flock.

Foghorn's just got a little bit riled

Foghorn you took my post out of context, I was merely suggesting that perhaps we can revamp or change the system a bit to a) take the load of the guys who run this site and b) make it easier for people to book TD. Im all for helping as much as I can too given I have a bit of experience with all this technology nonsense ;)

This site ain't getting smaller, its getting bigger and faster. Thats a testimate to how good a group of guys we have here and how well our moderators look after the joint... I was never having a stab, hell i try and support this site as much as possible, booking TDs, buying rats gear through the shop etc etc..

There will come a point where you cant manage it manually like it is...

Anyway, ill shutup. Im not here to whinge, im here to suggest ways to improve things for the benefit of all! :ninja:

[Johnny]

Now! back to the 'private road' where RBP gets to play God..... the payment terms could be scary......
Scary ?, Slippery is ready and willing, we just have to convince Robotpimp thats it not gay if your the giver :doggy:



:stirthepot: :lmao:

[Johnny]

fuck, just lost any chance of an invite havent I.

[Belinda]

fuck, just lost any chance of an invite havent I.

Nah...I'm sure he will need someone to flag :lmao:

[Underground]

There will come a point where you cant manage it manually like it is...


No, it wont. 40 places available per booking / per forum - you either book here, or book on ECRD.

I think the entitlement generation forgets one important aspect. NSW RATS.COM is NOT a trackday provider, its a free to register forum, that offers it's members on a first come first served basis, the opportunity to do a TD together.

At which point do people feel 'entitled' to a place in the bookings through RATS?

[stetto]

on a serious note, with oran shutting is it possible to come to an agreement with ECRD for perhaps 60 spots a month? And/or is there any chance of some wakefield days next yr even if they arent discounted, as we all seem to enjoy the socialising aspect of trackdays?

[Foghorn]

fuck, just lost any chance of an invite havent I.

How are your "Lycra Wearing Friends" Johnny.......I emailed Mick and suggested he change your user name to "Gaylord":lmao::lmao:

[Underground]

fuck, just lost any chance of an invite havent I.


Nah...I'm sure he will need someone to flag :lmao:

Glad I re-read that one again

[Belinda]

on a serious note, with oran shutting is it possible to come to an agreement with ECRD for perhaps 60 spots a month?

I thought that, but ECRD already lose $44 (plus lunch) per booking by doing group bookings....and it's not like they are struggling to fill TD's.

We dont see the r'ship building behind the scenes that the admin do with Leonie and co to KEEP our 40 discounted spots

[Foghorn]

Im not here to whinge, im here to suggest ways to improve things for the benefit of all! :ninja:

Kris, I'm not saying your one of the bleeters, but they have been a little vocal of late.

I just feel that from a small minority there is an over abundance of ingratitude

[Johnny]

Again. Its not cause they loose money on group discounts, its cause with so many members after bragging rights by booking through forum (face it, its cheaper to book via ec on a weekday, but who's going to see you ? :lmao:) has been proven time and time again that with so many forum members out on the track at the same time equals carnage.. Rats isnt the only one who is restricted, all forum group discounts are limited to 40 per month..



Nah...I'm sure he will need someone to flag :lmao:
Im done watching, time I took a ride too I think....... wait........ confirmed to watch for every event till July :dohsmiley::lmao:


How are your "Lycra Wearing Friends" Johnny.......I emailed Mick and suggested he change your user name to "Gaylord":lmao::lmao:

LOL, email on the way to Mick to change yours to "Freak" :lmao:

[SIX36]

I would take a weekday TD over a wkend one anytime...

[Captain]

me too.

[Foghorn]

LOL, email on the way to Mick to change yours to "Freak" :lmao:

If only you knew how close to the truth you are.........

[Hammo]

/me feels bad for my contribution to today's discussion.

Mick, I was a it surprised at your post on page 4 after the pleasant PM exchange however I probably hit a nerve. Sincere apologies for any problems caused, and I am now very aware of the process which of course I am happy to follow.

[Johnny]

I would take a weekday TD over a wkend one anytime...
me too.
The quality of riding on weekdays, is, well, a step above, really is. Pleasure to watch and pick up what I can, love it ! :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[Marshy]

Dammit, I take the arvo off and miss all this fun!! Just act like I posted in support of the tireless guys (Mick, John, Vinnie) that make this site a success. The current system works well when you book EARLY!!! No excuses people, you check the site and grab the discounted days when they first appear. Then there's no problem :D

My $0.02

[Kat00]

If its a first time bank transfer to a certain person it take 3 days approx to clear there after its pretty much with in 1 working day....

Not with St George, as an example, if you deposit money today it will appear in the RATs account on Tuesday. We have never had a transfer happen on a Monday, Ever.


on a serious note, with oran shutting is it possible to come to an agreement with ECRD for perhaps 60 spots a month? And/or is there any chance of some wakefield days next yr even if they arent discounted, as we all seem to enjoy the socialising aspect of trackdays?

More than 40 at EC?, Not a chance in the world, explanation down below.

WP? Highly unlikely they will be discounted, they simply aren't interested, could arrange group bookings if required.


I thought that, but ECRD already lose $44 (plus lunch) per booking by doing group bookings....and it's not like they are struggling to fill TD's.

We dont see the r'ship building behind the scenes that the admin do with Leonie and co to KEEP our 40 discounted spots

Leonie is a champ, her organizational skills are unbelievable. Without her effort
this site would not function. She has my eternal gratitude.
She is at the Motorcycle show, if your there thank her because its her who books us in.


Again. Its not cause they loose money on group discounts, its cause with so many members after bragging rights by booking through forum

That is partially correct.
I have spoken to Steve Brougghy in great detail on many occassions and Steve does site Johnny's reason as a partial explanation for the cap but he is also acutely aware in what the group bookings do to his bottom line.

Its OK to get 40 members to any one trackday but we can't get 15 riders into 4 Trackdays in the same month ;)

We actually approached Steve late last year, concerned with the number of booking we were making. We were booking about 30 members per trackday 4 times a month. The way we were going we would have ended up booking the entire trackday. We didn't want him to say enough is enough and ban discounted trackdays altogether.........the way we were going, one couldn't blame him if he did.

Steve talks about balance, he factors in to his operational costs how many discounted trackdays he offers.

We are grateful he gives us 40 places, 50 would be nice but can understand and accept his caps..


/me feels bad for my contribution to today's discussion.

Mick, I was a it surprised at your post on page 4 after the pleasant PM exchange however I probably hit a nerve. Sincere apologies for any problems caused, and I am now very aware of the process which of course I am happy to follow.

It wasn't meant to be a personal attack mate, more a defense, don't want sympathy nor praise, we choose to do this, mistakes occur on my behalf and when I don't get someone in I take it personally, Trouble is, in the fair dinkum department, the only member I could have done a better job with was Hitcho73, otherwise every other single member, like I said, about 8 of them since the 1/10, I did my best and why they didn't get in was for reasons beyond my control and thats a fact.

Can we automate the process further, PayPal for instance, sure but they charge 2-3% on deposits, Trackdays will go up next year on there own accord, stick another 3% on top of that and it starts becoming a pretty pricey option.

[WET4URacing]

10 pages. well dun Kris

[Johnny]

Stop it Mick, you do a fine fucking job for nothing, Take a bow mate.. :clap:

[stetto]

Cheers Mick

[Linden]

10 pages. well dun Kris

Is it 11 yet ....

Edit - Nope - but well done in under 12 hours - still time

[Johnny]

Is it 11 yet ....

Edit - Nope - but well done in under 12 hours - still time

But this one goes to eleven..






Spinal tap :mod_smilie_rockwoot:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Johnny]

Try again

Is it 11 yet ....

Edit - Nope - but well done in under 12 hours - still time

But this one goes to eleven :confused1:


Woohoo spinal tap delivers :mod_smilie_rockwoot:lmao:

[Devilish]

the only financial negative is that if we pay Rats $185 via paypal, it will cost around $10 in pay pal fee's per payment that Rats takes out of their payment account... and of course, the fee's are passed on so our says would cost that little bit more because of Paypal...

[Kris]

Maybe paypal is good for people who pay last minute and want the $ in the rats account quickly?

I dont anyone really cares (at least i dont) about the discount, I book through rats so I can see familiar faces and hang out in the same garage...

[TIGRRR]

I book through rats so I can see familiar faces and hang out in the same garage...

+1

[Marshy]

I care about the discount. Not a lot, but some. I spend too much on this sport, and any saving is welcome. And I LOVE getting lunch included - I would never buy it at $16, but I reckon it's a TOP lunch.

Mostly I just wanna hang out with the mates I have come to make through this awesome website. Being a RAT is just GOLD.

(do I have enuff CAPITALS??)

[Foghorn]

Mostly I just wanna hang out with the mates I have come to make through this awesome website. Being a RAT is just GOLD.

Gold and priceless...................but what are we going to do about Johnny:spank:

[Belinda]

Why dont you kick things off, showing your love Marshy!

Members with RATS tattoos get first dibs on TD's :ayyy:

[Marshy]

What do frangipanis get??

[Johnny]

http://www.uhhh.org/~herzog/blog-images/broken-record.jpg

[Johnny]

ooh found a better one :lmao:

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/isss/isss/violin.gif

[Foghorn]

ooh found a better one :lmao:

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/isss/isss/violin.gif

Stradivaris RAT or is he just on the fiddle

[*Oggy*]

Why dont you kick things off, showing your love Marshy!

Members with RATS tattoos get first dibs on TD's :ayyy:


I did hear Johnny anf Foghorn did have a few Beers and did go and get their manhood tattoo'd..

Fog got "Road and Trackbikes.com" on his old fella...



Johnny got "RATS" on his............






:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Johnny]

Stradivaris RAT or is he just on the fiddle

No idea mate, thought it rather fitting a Rat playin the violin though :lmao:

[gav500]

why not im throwing my 2cents in ...if u post on the TD thread,send a PM and pay straight away there is no way of missing out i have found but i have only done 6 days with RATS..im with Jonny this is a topnotch site :ayyy: to everyone involved even zroyz :lmao: ..(i couldn't face a day at work without it and today was once fun day:lmao:)i do think that they should up the track day price to $200 even and keep the profit,just think of it and membership fees..


and i think this thread has broke a few records at one stage i saw 18 people viewing its at 107 post in 12 hours and going from fighting to loving and back again :dohsmiley:

[Belinda]

I did hear Johnny anf Foghorn did have a few Beers and did go and get their manhood tattoo'd..




Johnny got "RATS" on his...........



Shame they had to wrap the S around to the other side though ( so I hear)

[Johnny]

Shame they had to wrap the S around to the other side though ( so I hear)

Wrong... :lmao:

Have a R on left cheek, and T on Right .
Comes together if I moon ya :bum1smiley: :lmao:

[Belinda]

Wrong... :lmao:

Have a R on left cheek, and T on Right cheek.
Comes together if I moon ya :bum1smiley: :lmao:

I dont know what you get up to on the school bus Johnny, I might need to speak to your special ed teacher :ayyy: :lmao:

[Johnny]

ooops. my secret is out :dohsmiley: :)

[Mozzie]

Great discussion everyone, one of the good things about this site. I personaly travel along way to do td's and any money saving is handy,but that is not the only reason I book through Rats. It was in the begining, but now we (my wife & I) love the people we've met through td's and other outing with Rats.We are on the site every day. Because we are so far away when I book a td I plan ahead and book early and plan my trip and thanks to a rat member mate I have some where to stay when I do. I have never had any problem . Chris is another fine member I have met and I know he means well and is only trying to improve a problem , but if you plan and book early there is no problem. Hopefully, in the future with Oran Park closing and EC basiclly being the only track for me ot go to, I just hope Rats wont get the cold shoulder form the td orginisers.:)

[HA98]

What a can of worms this thread turned into, saw it early this morning with 1 or 2 replies only... had a feelin it was gunna head in this direction :argue:...

[Kimbo]

I hope I start page 13. I have done many TD's at the creek and at PI thorugh Vinnie, Zroyz or Katoo and never had a stuff up or missed out on the day or even a lunch. I always get PM's back and notified if there is a hiccup. Leonie is great to talk to and helpful from the CSS side. thanks guys

[Kimbo]

Drat , still page 12

[Captain]

You must have a longer screen than mine :lmao:

[Kimbo]

No I have one powered by a hamster, ha, Multi-nationals always have cheap stuff

[Johnny]

LMFAO..


You know, if we removed all the posts that went along the lines of, cant believe this thread is still going, or its now on page 10-11-12. we'd be on about page 4. :dohsmiley:



DELETE this thread please mods.. they arent going to give it a rest otherwise, Not fair putting this all on Kris, Hammo has taken it upon himself to take blame, seriously, its fucken enough and not doing us a whole any good !
A few of us have even tried to turn into a joke, we had a laugh but then someone comes along and brings t back to square one, fuck even my sence of humour has its boundaries :lmao:

[Belinda]

No way!! this could be a contender for "thread of the day" :)

[Johnny]

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/attachment.php?id=1105
Mmmmmmarshmellowwwwwwwwwwww

[Cedric]

http://images.dr3vil.com/files2/default/best_thread_ever.jpg

[gav500]

http://images.dr3vil.com/files2/default/best_thread_ever.jpg

+1

[Johnny]

linky not worky :confused1:

[Johnny]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/gixar/hoff.gif


Now this thread is complete :lmao:

[Hammo]

It has been worth the entire day's posting just to see that pic.

[Johnny]

Thats the spirit mate :ayyy:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/gixar/jumprope-1.gif

[Captain]

Hey, I remember her!

[Foghorn]

Guys damn you all..............this is my "Cope de Grace" that finally ends this thread

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv213/Foghorn27/003292-200.jpg

[*Oggy*]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0VPgJIjfsTo/RzjKiT5fWjI/AAAAAAAABqU/O6Uxa_MqNAM/s400/32_assssssss.jpg

[Underground]

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