Double Banjo bolt, Brembo

[Kris]

Anyone know where I can get one today??? MCAS outa stock..Pirtek dont have any ;(

[jasonbw]

Ironic you ask this, a mate asked yesterday and I had a spare, otherwise it would have been yours bud... just bad timing!

[RIPPERTON]

I got 2 stainless ones
one with bleeder one without
you can have one

[WET4URacing]

earls silverwater

[Pict]

Ive got a titanium one you can have.

[RIPPERTON]

Ive got a titanium one you can have.

il have it
swap ya

[Kris]

Pict, where are you at?? id love it! Thank you!!

Ripperton, youll be backup :D

Wet, called em and a few other shops - outta stock :(

[Pict]

Just had a bit of a quick look and i couldnt find the bastard :(

I'll have a better look tomorrow in daylight.

[Damage]

If you want to buy one locally try...
Enzed at St Peters
2 Burrows Rd
St Peters NSW 2044
(02) 9550 2800

Was about $30 but had it in stock.

[Kris]

Ill try them! Thanks Damage, $30 fark alot of money for 1 bolt!

[Kris]

Guys, bought a enzed one that i had to cut the thread down as the bolt is too long...

Can you tell me if this would provide an ok seal?

This is the setup

http://members.iinet.net.au/~kelandkris/banjo.jpg

[Linden]

Guys, bought a enzed one that i had to cut the thread down as the bolt is too long...

Can you tell me if this would provide an ok seal?

This is the setup


An uneducated guess but I think the 2 washers on the top MAY effect the outlet point for the banjo bolt i.e. confirm that the outlet hole centres on the hose centre - although the tolerance maybe fine ie talking 1mm in 10mm

HTH
Linden

[Johnny]

Another uneducated guess, but I think one of them two washers would be much better off, actually, be for and used up against master cyclinder.

[RIPPERTON]

An uneducated guess but I think the 2 washers on the top MAY effect the outlet point for the banjo bolt i.e. confirm that the outlet hole centres on the hose centre - although the tolerance maybe fine ie talking 1mm in 10mm

HTH
Linden

well spotted but wont cut off one of the calipers but might just slow the lever down a bit.
Jeez I hate it when non mechanics work on their brakes, scares the crap out of me.
Get that bolt out of there and put a proper one in there. :storm:

[RIPPERTON]

Another uneductaed guess, but I think one of them two washers would be much better off, actually used up against master cyclinder.

Shit I didnt see that
Kriss put the spanner down and slowly back away from the motor cycle.
Security will be over right away.
Oh no you do realise this has made you world famous.

[WET4URacing]

well spotted but wont cut off one of the calipers but might just slow the lever down a bit.
Jeez I hate it when non mechanics work on their brakes, scares the crap out of me.
Get that bolt out of there and put a proper one in there. :storm:


+1
there is a reason why you do what you do from 9 to 5 and us with the licence do wat we do. put down the tools now. i would not want to be on the track with you and niether should anybody else. you are dangerous Kris

[jasonbw]

Oh man.... but at least you were right about sometimes having to use more than one crush washer to get the bolt's holes lined up with the different sized banjos that brake line use.

Johnny gets some award for spotting this methinks.

[WET4URacing]

hang on is there even a washer up against the brembo? and y do u even need a brembo anyway. ? aus S/sport dont need em and i hink they are a little harder on brakes than u

[Kris]

No washer against the M/C, i used the copper washers to space the banjos out so the hole matches up.

Well, dont use the ones from Enzed, They are shit.

Pict, is your bolt going to work a bit better ?

I design telecommunication networks for a living, not this bullshit ;) If the cunts at Enzed gave me the right darn bolt! GRRRRRRRR

[Johnny]

No washer against the M/C,
Well to answer your question then,yes, it will leak, and brake fluid is nasty shit mate..


piss it off for peice of minds sake alone and get a proper one..

[zRoYz]

The washers are the seal used to stop leaks there should be one at every contact point so between master cylinder, between lines & between bolt head.

All master cylinder thread depth can be different but the banjo bolt port holes are made to a standard so placing the correct number of washers (one only between banjo bolt head & between lines) in correct position they will always line up. Your problem is the thread depth in master cylinder isn't deep enough for bolt your using so shortening banjo bolt is correct method.

The point that has been made & you admitted your an IT person is you can do things in that field people not in that line of work can't. The same goes for mechanical repairs there are simply things people not in that field don't understand or pick up on & the advise some tend to give "have a go & learn" is floored because there will be a time it's going to cost someone there life. There is a reason mechanics do an apprenticeship & learn under guidance just like others do with there specified field. Every one likes saving a dollar but look at it this way what would you say if someone just started having a go with a network you just built without being qualified.

If your unable to shorten banjo bolt then the other method is to add extra washers between master cylinder & brake line this way you don't change banjo bolt port hole to brake line alignment.

[Kris]

Thanks Roy, fair call, but I like to learn so im happy to post, learn and away I go.. If thats not the way to do it then I dont know what is...

Picking up a proper banjo from Pict ;)

Damage, this is all your FAULT! :D lol

[WET4URacing]

Kris how wood u feel if you were nailed from behind goin into T2 by a twat that makes sails for the americas cup boats and found out he had been working on his brakes the nite b4 and they failed just as he hit you and stickin u in the meat wagon.


johhny i'm still tryin

[WET4URacing]

Australian & Italian imports in melb, they o'nite or even gawanloch(spelling) will have them.

[Kris]

wetty, im not foolish enough to get either this forum or someone to check my work before I venture out on the bike myself let alone someone else...

Thats why I posted this thread you see?

[RIPPERTON]

No not the Tianium one...thats mine
you can have one of my Stainless ones
meet you at the creek this Sunday..
or I can leave it in my letter box.

[WET4URacing]

wetty, im not foolish enough to get either this forum or someone to check my work before I venture out on the bike myself let alone someone else...

Thats why I posted this thread you see?


re read kris

[zRoYz]

Thanks Roy, fair call, but I like to learn so im happy to post, learn and away I go.. If thats not the way to do it then I dont know what is...

Picking up a proper banjo from Pict ;)

Damage, this is all your FAULT! :D lol

I'm all for learning BUT under supervision, the internet isn't supervision when your out of your depth.

The banjo bolt you have is correct type it just needs modification to suit your application, a mechanic would do that automatically. There is no guarantee the next banjo bolt you use also wont be a little long for the master cylinder on your bike.

[Kris]

Ripperton, thanks anyway ill grab Picts tonight.

Roy, then the ONLY issue with the setup is that one washer needs to be placed between the MC and the banjo.. The rest is correct.

[zRoYz]

Ripperton, thanks anyway ill grab Picts tonight.

Roy, then the ONLY issue with the setup is that one washer needs to be placed between the MC and the banjo.. The rest is correct.

If the banjo bolt has tension with the number of washers you have used YES move one of the bolt head washers to between the master cylinder & brake line so there is a sealing washer at every contact surface.

master cylinder..washer..line..washer..line..washer..banj o bolt

[*Oggy*]

You might well outbrake Captain into T2 now !!!!...

If you are going to start hacksawing a bit of thread off the bolt, may i suggest you do the following...

Screw the double banjo into the master cylinder by hand until you feel it bottoming out, then measure the distance between the underside or the shoulder and the mating surface of the brembo... this must be slightly less than the total of both banjo ends plus 3 washers... I say this as you will need to tighten the banjo bolt up and the sealing is done by slightly crushing the copper washers... If the thread is bottoming out them all you will do is maybe break the brembo casting or think its tight, but the washers are not sealing well....

Personally I'd just go buy the correct bolt....

[Belinda]

I think Kris' threads should continue, cause at this rate I will learn so much that I can be thrown into the mix of suspension experts....:lmao::stirthepot:






(thats tongue-in-cheek at Kris....not any of the real experts......:ayyy:)

[Lopeman]

on a slight aside, a question for wet4u and royz.

If you say people should leave working on there bike to an 'expert' where do you draw the line?
If i wanna adjust my chain should i take it to the shop?

How about if i wanna do my valves?

If your talking just safty items liike brakes, what about changing my pads? Should i pay to get that job done to?


I think kris is well within his right to work on his own bike, and he did brimg a queery to a public forum for comment from others more in the know.

Quiet frankly everytime i have had my bike in the shop whit has been done that is worng, backwards and dangerous so as a consequence i choose to do myown work.

I know a few mechanics that have made a much bigger error than that, and much more dangerous

[Kris]

Lopeman, i feel a little better :D

Thanks to Pict (what a champion) I have installed a Brembo Titanium bolt that fits and works PERFECTLY. Nice bolt, felt like plastic ;) And the distance between each banjo is spot on. Roy, I've used 1 copper crush washer for each seal

Its sorted :D

Ef Enzed!

Oggy, I did exactly that with the previous bolt and used a metal cut off disc with a Dremel (nice little tool!)

Case Closed! I owe Pict some beer

[zRoYz]

on a slight aside, a question for wet4u and royz.

If you say people should leave working on there bike to an 'expert' where do you draw the line?
If i wanna adjust my chain should i take it to the shop?

How about if i wanna do my valves?

If your talking just safty items liike brakes, what about changing my pads? Should i pay to get that job done to?


I think kris is well within his right to work on his own bike, and he did brimg a queery to a public forum for comment from others more in the know.

Quiet frankly everytime i have had my bike in the shop whit has been done that is worng, backwards and dangerous so as a consequence i choose to do myown work.

I know a few mechanics that have made a much bigger error than that, and much more dangerous

There is no straight answer to that question because as you stated you can use a mechanic who is also useless just like in anything there are the good & the bad, but because even the bad ones do that type of work everyday there more likely to pick up a fault you wont.

Lets say for example we use the "hey everybody can do anything model" so Joe blow starts to try to do electrical work around the house & kills himself because allot more dangerous, where do you draw the line.

My point was never to say Kris can't do his own work, my point was if you try to do your own work without the correct supervision when you don't really know what your doing then your living dangerously & also maybe putting others at risk.

I also don't count asking a question on the internet as supervision, nobody will ever win this argument because there are so many pros & cons, my point really is how much is your life worth to attempt mechanical work on a two wheel rocket ship when you really don't have the knowledge to perform such work. When you have people trying there hand at mechanical work because people on the internet told them how to do it but don't even know the correct way to undo a normal right hand threaded bolt that is a big worry.

[Johnny]

Kris how wood u feel if you were nailed from behind goin into T2 by a twat that makes sails for the americas cup boats and found out he had been working on his brakes the nite b4 and they failed just as he hit you and stickin u in the meat wagon.


johhny i'm still tryin

You do occasionally slip though :lmao:

And I reckon Ottospunkmeister can vouch for how that feels :dohsmiley:

[Kris]

You do occasionally slip though :lmao:

And I reckon Ottospunkmeister can vouch for how that feels :dohsmiley:

Wetty might like it, or know what it feels like, but I do not know nor do I want to find out what it feels like to be 'nailed from behind' :lmao:

[*Oggy*]

Funniest thing I ever saw was a mate doing his winter rebuild on his GS750.... started it up, having to rev it a bit as his carbies were fluffing around after he "cleaned them up"... then spat out the coffee as I watched in disbeliey as he tried to put it in gear, only to find that (a) the clutch was sticking (sat too long) and (b)he hadnt put any fluid in the rebuilt brakes... He lurched forward and panicked (grabbing a handfull of nothing), managing to knock the garage door off its hinge onto his dads car parked outside....

That wasnt in his Haynes manual .............

[Johnny]

Wetty might like it, or know what it feels like, but I do not know nor do I want to find out what it feels like to be 'nailed from behind' :lmao:

Carefull, your putting a target on your back for Wetty :lmao:



That wasnt in his Haynes manual .............
Neither is pumping brakes after fitting new tyres or pads :dohsmiley: :lmao:

[Kris]

Carefull, your putting a target on your back for Wetty :lmao:


Neither is pumping brakes after fitting new tyres or pads :dohsmiley: :lmao:

Oh come on, I'm sure Wetty is JUST as good a taker as he is a giver LOL :lmao::lmao:

[WET4URacing]

i have bin nailed big at T2 but it was not thru bad mechanics just another competitor thinkin he was rossi but found out he was really johhny rae