Fastbikes SBOTY

[Dave75]

10. kawasaki ZX10
9. Ducati 1198s
8. Honda CBR600RR
7. Suzuki GSXR750
6. KTM RC8R
5. Suzuki GSXR1000
4. Kawasaki ZX6R
3. Triumph 675
2. Yamaha R1
1. Honda CBR1000RR

I'm sure that there will be some interesting feedback

[James]

:ayyy: Good to see

[Dave75]

Lap times posted

1. R1 - 1.35.45
2. CBR1000RR - 1.35.61
3. GSXR1000 - 1.35.61
4. ZX10R - 1.35.70
5. GSXR750 - 1.36.00
6. Triumph675 - 1.36.10
7. RC8R - 1.36.39
8. ZX6R - 1.36.88
9. 1198S - 1.37.07
10. CBR600RR - 1.37.73

[Captain]

Usual stuff ...

[*Oggy*]

Quite good write up.... Surprised they liked the Blade with ABS... ITs a bloater with an extra 10kg to carry, but first time for FB's for a bike to win 2 years on the go.

[xcabbi]

Suprised that the only middle weight not tested was the R6. Suzuki/Kawasaki/Honda all had their litre bikes and their middle weights but not Yamaha. What gives.

[Captain]

Probably they only wanted to have 10 bikes ... top 11 doesn't quite have the same ring about it ..

[xcabbi]

Top 10 and the loner that failed to make the cut does :)

[Captain]

maybe it was considered the 11th? Which one would you have left out?

[xcabbi]

Let me re read the article and I'll get back to you. Till then I'd piss off the middleweight RR off. Its been unchanged for a number of years now. The R6 underwent some mapping changes and every journo from here to timbucktoo thinks its the best middleweight since sliced bread this year. Not only for the track but its also coming into its own on the street.

[Kris]

CBR1000RR for world domination :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[Dave75]

Perhaps the CBR600RR was in it and not the R6 because honda have given fagan from the magazine a long term CBR600RR as a bike? perhaps they felt they had to have it in

[Birdman45]

surely a magazine getting bikes/dinners/special attention etc wouldn't be a reason for getting good reviews or having more bikes in their test now would it? ....................................... Hahaha

[Captain]

Let me re read the article and I'll get back to you. Till then I'd piss off the middleweight RR off.

Why doesn't that statement surprise me? :lmao:

maybe it's because the RR has come in front of the R6 is every earticle I have ever read ....

[SIX36]

Not sure how the 1198S got one of the slower lap times, but it does take some getting used to the chassis compared to a jap bike...

A few Aussie reports say the new R1 is very sluggish on change of direction...

[Greggy-68]

CBR1000RR for world domination :mod_smilie_rockwoot
Until the 2010 200hp VFR arrives

Will redefine the meaning of superbike, like the GTR did for supercars.

[xcabbi]

Why doesn't that statement surprise me? :lmao:

maybe it's because the RR has come in front of the R6 is every earticle I have ever read ....

So the RR finished ahead of the R6 in this years Austest? Come on captain, if you are going to quote me, quote me in full. Or are you taking quotation lessons from that Muppet Kayzar Trad.

[Captain]

I said "every artice I have ever read" ... looks like we both need to read carefully :ayyy:

Look, I couldn't give a stuff who is in or who is out, but given that I ride a 600RR I don't see why you would feel compelled to say "I'd piss off the middleweight RR off". I really don't see where I criticized your bike, to deserve that ... I simply made the point that perhaps the authors didn't rate it in the top 10.

Anyhow, it's not like it's that different in capacity from the R6, is it? That's a middleweight too :ayyy:

[Nuff]

You guys are getting all of your panties in a knot as if they were your wives. They are just bikes. Even tough my bike has a female name :lmao:

Captain, we need some more explanations about your sig... it makes me melt :lmao:

[xcabbi]

Selective reader hey. The reason I said piss it off is because it hasn't evolved at all over the last 3-4 years. And before then the changes appear to be cosmetic. You could almost argue that its been the same bike since late 2004.

[ozducati]

Lap times posted

1. R1 - 1.35.45
2. CBR1000RR - 1.35.61
3. GSXR1000 - 1.35.61
4. ZX10R - 1.35.70
5. GSXR750 - 1.36.00
6. Triumph675 - 1.36.10
7. RC8R - 1.36.39
8. ZX6R - 1.36.88
9. 1198S - 1.37.07
10. CBR600RR - 1.37.73

amateurs.. seriously, if they can't lap an 1198s faster than half those bikes then they can't ride for shit... usual journalistic crap...

[Zakk]

This looks pretty accurate to me. The Blade has been consistantly given accolades since the model's introduction. I would expect the 1198 to placed at the back as they are basically...............wait for it.............A PIECE OF SHITE!!! There you go I said it - what everybody else has been thinking, (has been proven) and didnt have the guts to do say.

Kind Regards:ayyy:

[triumph]

1.36.10 for the 675 is not bad.

[SIX36]

This looks pretty accurate to me. The Blade has been consistantly given accolades since the model's introduction. I would expect the 1198 to placed at the back as they are basically...............wait for it.............A PIECE OF SHITE!!! There you go I said it - what everybody else has been thinking, (has been proven) and didnt have the guts to do say.

Kind Regards:ayyy:

Big call...
What makes a 1198 a POS?

How many K's on your new mongrel R1, have you looked how worn your crank housing is? Watch these things fall apart like a cheap Chinese mini bike...

Every mag's report is different look at AMCN for July the R1 got a bum wrap for a few reasons. But every rider adapts to different bikes better than others. If you believe one mag over a other well then your the only one being fooled.

[Pymm]

Why doesn't that statement surprise me? :lmao:

maybe it's because the RR has come in front of the R6 is every earticle I have ever read ....

such a pity that it doesn't follow suit in racing aye cappy?:stirthepot:

[James]

Captain, we need some more explanations about your sig... it makes me melt :lmao:

Who is that in your sig Captain?
and where do you find this soft porn ????

[Captain]

Selective reader hey. The reason I said piss it off is because it hasn't evolved at all over the last 3-4 years. And before then the changes appear to be cosmetic. You could almost argue that its been the same bike since late 2004.

True ... but then maybe (just maybe) it's a good bike. Do you need an update for fashion's sake? Perhaps, we like new bikes of course, but how much is a pretty bike worth? Note the Ducati's position ...


such a pity that it doesn't follow suit in racing aye cappy?:stirthepot:

So why is Honda leading the manufacturer's championsip in WSS? Why are they in 2nd and 3rd place in the riders' championship?
I didn't say they were the best BTW ... hang on, why am I even replying? Are we back in primary school?
:dohsmiley:

[_chado77]

:lmao:..the estrogen levels too high in here for me

[LAW]

I can't believe the Hyosung wasn't up there. I though it would at LEAST have beating the Gaytona :lmao:

[LAW]

Who is that in your sig Captain?
and where do you find this soft porn ????

Isn't that Jessica Alba?

[Captain]

Isn't that Jessica Alba?

I have no idea law, she's nice though :ayyy:

EDIT: re the bike reports, given that every magazine seems to differ, it's gotten to the point where you just don't know what to believe any more.
Except for the blade, which always comes first. So it's either a truly brilliant bike, better than all the rest, or (more likely IMO) it's been praised so much, that no journalist is daring to criticize it.

Just as interstingly, I read (in ACMN ???) that they are selling 4 times as many R1's as they are Blades in Australia.

[stetto]

All 10 of those bikes are great, who cares wat u ride as long as u r having fun

[ottospunkmeister]

I have no idea law, she's nice though :ayyy:

EDIT: re the bike reports, given that every magazine seems to differ, it's gotten to the point where you just don't know what to believe any more.
Except for the blade, which always comes first. So it's either a truly brilliant bike, better than all the rest, or (more likely IMO) it's been praised so much, that no journalist is daring to criticize it.

Just as interstingly, I read (in ACMN ???) that they are selling 4 times as many R1's as they are Blades in Australia.

The base R1 can't be so bad if the WSBK Yamaha team have managed to forge it into something that Ben Spies regularly wins on (beating the Ten Kate blades very convincingly)

[LAW]

The 'blade is very flattering, it's so easy to ride and tractable. the R1 had all that hype around it and it didn't make very good coffee so of course it was gong to be a let down.

IMO you buy a bike these days because you like the "look" or your a fanboy for a certain brand. they're all so similar (except for the twin vs screamer debate)

[James]

Was up at PITS on Sunday and the guy I was chatting to reckons that he and his Duck mates nickname the latest blade 'the slut bike' - as they make a decent rider out of anyone. :)

[Captain]

IMO you buy a bike these days because you like the "look" or your a fanboy for a certain brand. they're all so similar (except for the twin vs screamer debate)
There's some truth there, for sure.

Bikes are so individual. Take the ZX10R for instance ... my favourite. Why? because when I rode it it 'did it' for me, I loved it, plus I reckon it looks nice. IF that's the way you feel about a bike, why would you buy another ... just to have your mates approve of your decision? And even that is based on what they've read, as your 'mates' haven't actually ridden all the bikes :lmao:

Re the racing ... who knows what's going on there too? The bikes are not standard, the ones that perform poorly in SBK seen to kick arse in AMA, so there's no point looking that way for guidance ...

The point being - as as been said by much better riders than me - it's what you like. These are all great bikes, waaaaay beyond our ability.

[Pymm]

So why is Honda leading the manufacturer's championsip in WSS? Why are they in 2nd and 3rd place in the riders' championship?
I didn't say they were the best BTW ... hang on, why am I even replying? Are we back in primary school?
:dohsmiley:



dont take the bait matey! my semi-cryptic shit stir attempt was pissing on how seriously some people take these tests.

the difference in lap times between all the bikes doesnt make or break each manufacturer's individual model. ben spies could be just as fast on a ducati as he could be on a yamaha or honda, let's not get carried away ladies!

[Captain]

It's all good of course, we're all friends ... I hope :D
Except for the Ducati riders, they can get stuffed :lmao:

Joking guys :stirthepot:

[ozducati]

This looks pretty accurate to me. The Blade has been consistantly given accolades since the model's introduction. I would expect the 1198 to placed at the back as they are basically...............wait for it.............A PIECE OF SHITE!!! There you go I said it - what everybody else has been thinking, (has been proven) and didnt have the guts to do say.

Kind Regards:ayyy:

this discussion could go on forever ..

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/cats.gif

but if you stop reading these crap mags and wipe your chin you may get over it...
:stirthepot:

[clarkey]

True ... but then maybe (just maybe) it's a good bike. Do you need an update for fashion's sake? Perhaps, we like new bikes of course, but how much is a pretty bike worth? Note the Ducati's position ...



So why is Honda leading the manufacturer's championsip in WSS? Why are they in 2nd and 3rd place in the riders' championship?
I didn't say they were the best BTW ... hang on, why am I even replying? Are we back in primary school?
:dohsmiley:

Dunno how much RR is left other than the stickers in those things Cappy , ... Super cars arent really to much like commodore /fords either but it makes HSV and FPV sell a few .

[Captain]

Mate they were doing just fine when they had those c/case vacuum pumps :lmao:
Who dobbed?

[scott]

Who is that in your sig Captain?
and where do you find this soft porn ????

jessica alba.
:drool:

[James]

jessica alba.
:drool:

mmmmmmm - she gives good finger :)

[Dave75]

Anymore feedback?

[Specs]

they're all so similar (except for the twin vs screamer debate)

what about the harleys?

[Captain]

... Super cars arent really to much like commodore /fords either but it makes HSV and FPV sell a few .

Win on Sunday, sell on Monday?
I'm sure you're right clarkey.

[Nuff]

mmmmmmm - she gives good finger :)

I was thinking head, but each to his own :lmao:

[Zakk]

This would mean theorically that the zx6, a $14,000 bike, cbr 600rr $15,000 bike and a whole heap of other bikes half the price are actually quicker round a certain track than a $36,000 Ducati (without termis) with Ohlins, traction control.

I rode Jame's Blade the other day and loved it - The fire blade felt awesome great engine with awesome handling. Then I rode my mate's 1198s. Now i can see why the fireblade won and continues to win so consistantly throughout the planet. I love my R1 but can see the journos perpective placing the Honda 1st.

Especially with the 1198s last. Once again the Jappers have proven that the Latte sipppers of the world have got it wrong. No offence to you Oz I would presume you are an awesome rider and probably put that bike round the track with incredible lap times.

Ducati? Each to their own, very pretty bike, and they make beautiful jackets and coffee coasters but essentially this bike is SHITE. There you go I said it again ..and Im not taking this back.:ayyy:

[Johnny]

So, what it is a journo ?

Someone who can ride a bike and put pen to paper ? (very few who can do both).

Someone who can write, but cant ride ? (ahhhmm, a few of them around).

Someone who can ride, but cant write ? ( this be the case , the best journo is never heard)

So does it really matter which bike tickles their fancy best ?
Cause Im sure if you were to write in and say, "hey mate, I watched you test **** on ***** at ****** and what you write and what I saw are two very fucken different things, whats the go with that ?."
I can garuantee you you will not get a responce :lmao:

edit.. re them lap times and placing bikes in order, atleast put them in order to laptimes ffs :dohsmiley: :lmao:

[Zakk]

I was just trying to rev some of the brothers up - in reality I simply cant afford a Duke but would have one if I had the money (and then sell it for a 09 R1). Im just getting bored and wanted some of the brothers to have some fun...Mate if i had a 1999 R1 I would be just as happy or a CBR 250 for that matter
Johnny if i hadnt left school in Kindy I would have been able to tell whether thems fightin words in your post!!! Hope to see ya at the track when i can get my shit together

Regards buddy. :ayyy:

[Johnny]

Johnny if i hadnt left school in Kindy I would have been able to tell whether thems fightin words in your post!!! Hope to see ya at the track when i can get my shit together

Regards buddy. :ayyy:
LOL, thems not fighting words aimed at you or anyone else brother, just related to topic of journo's and the opinions they are paid to have :p..


Its just Im over the write ups by Journo's long ago mate.. Example ? next years models will make the ants pants of bikes of today, seem rubbish, and we will be made to think how we rode around on such a dud of a bike :lmao: ..

Hope to see you around too soon mate... countdown to getting my life back has begun, so wont be long :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[Specs]

mag reviews are base on opinions, everyone has a different one. It just makes good reading.

PS. I rode a Ducati 2 weeks ago, it aint that bad.

[ozducati]

This would mean theorically that the zx6, a $14,000 bike, cbr 600rr $15,000 bike and a whole heap of other bikes half the price are actually quicker round a certain track than a $36,000 Ducati (without termis) with Ohlins, traction control.

I rode Jame's Blade the other day and loved it - The fire blade felt awesome great engine with awesome handling. Then I rode my mate's 1198s. Now i can see why the fireblade won and continues to win so consistantly throughout the planet. I love my R1 but can see the journos perpective placing the Honda 1st.

Especially with the 1198s last. Once again the Jappers have proven that the Latte sipppers of the world have got it wrong. No offence to you Oz I would presume you are an awesome rider and probably put that bike round the track with incredible lap times.

Ducati? Each to their own, very pretty bike, and they make beautiful jackets and coffee coasters but essentially this bike is SHITE. There you go I said it again ..and Im not taking this back.:ayyy:

each to their own i say, you dislike the ducati's, i love em, the 1198s is a better bike than the 1098s, and i would imagine there are not a lot of journo's who can truly be impartial, and after a life of pulling their dicks over jap bikes have their bias's towards to the euro bikes... and probably there are a few who think the other way round.. i for one would not own a jap bike again, i enjoy riding my 1198s, and my Multi, and they do get ridden.. well, not at the moment, but am itching to get back on as soon as i can,... in saying all that, i take these mag tests with a grain of salt nowadays... Ducati have proven themselves over the years in WSBK and even MotoGP, so again, each to their own i say...

[Specs]

orgh how sad.. someone getting the :hissyfitsmiley: because their favourite brand didnt come first.

cheer up mate i buy you a :beer:

[ozducati]

i am not :hissyfitsmiley: read what i wrote, is simple.. :ayyy:

[Zakk]

Hi Mate like i said before brother I just cant afford one that's why Im knocking it. Im just stirring up a hornets nest Johnny and James know what im like - A tool, who likes to shit stir. Both me and Markyy GG like them - great bikes. I had a mate, the Late Alan Hales (Castrol winner)who rode one like the devil himeself up the Old Rd and he fuckin loved it.

Peace Out..:ayyy:

[Captain]

Talk about wearing blinkers mate.


i for one would not own a jap bike again
That one short statement encapsulates the reason many Ducati riders are ridiculed. Not all, but many. (Sorry, I have my 'court jester' suit on again).

For my part, I would ride ANY brand (inc Ducati, a great brand), if I liked the bike (performance, looks, reliability, enjoyment). See the difference?

[Birdman45]

Like Johnny said, and myself a few pages back, mag write ups are a paid bullshit story and I would never go by what a mag says and haven't even read one for years now coz I know what a load of rubbish they can be. You only have to look at some of the things they say and who actually wins when and why etc to see this. ZX10 won a couple of years ago in the oz mags, what did they say about it? something along the lines of:

"The Blade and GSXR were faster and much easier to ride but were boring and had no personality, while the zx10 wanting to head shake and loft the front everywhere just made it a blast to ride."

WTF? I'll take the boring easy to ride fast bike that I will live another day on and be quicker on EVERY DAY of the f'kin week. What a complete load of bullshit. No2. Aprilia won bike of the year the first year the Mille came out, only problem, it wasn't even out here yet. I was in talks with Aprilia at the time about selling them and I was told I'd have to wait a week or so after the initial talks because they were all too busy wining and dining magazine reps to get the Mille over the line for BOTY.................... and guess what? It won. Hahaha what a hoax, I owned one of the first Mill'es and it's the biggest ill handling POS I have ever ridden.

My advice, look at the pretty pics and throw them in the bin, about all they're good for.

[Specs]

i am not :hissyfitsmiley: read what i wrote, is simple.. :ayyy:

:lmao: :lmao: ok oz

[Captain]

Birdman45 and I don't always see eye to eye, but mate I gotta agree 10000% with those comments.

:ayyy:

[ozducati]

Hi Mate like i said before brother I just cant afford one that's why Im knocking it. Im just stirring up a hornets nest Johnny and James know what im like - A tool, who likes to shit stir. Both me and Markyy GG like them - great bikes. I had a mate, the Late Alan Hales (Castrol winner)who rode one like the devil himeself up the Old Rd and he fuckin loved it.

Peace Out..:ayyy:

is all good mate, was not having a go at you, just simply stating my thoughts.. no problems :ayyy:

PS.. i like the sound of the new R1, have a few mates that have them with Akra pipes and sounds very nice..


Talk about wearing blinkers mate.


That one short statement encapsulates the reason many Ducati riders are ridiculed. Not all, but many. (Sorry, I have my 'court jester' suit on again).

For my part, I would ride ANY brand (inc Ducati, a great brand), if I liked the bike (performance, looks, reliability, enjoyment). See the difference?

Captain, it's not about wearing blinkers, i like the euro twins (hmmm, twins.http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/BADMAN2006/swedishgungirls.jpg), is my personal preference, the same way a lot of guys prefer IL4's or jap bikes .. and my thoughts are no different to a lot of guys that ride jap bikes and continually put shit on Ducati's (I am not putting shit on jap bikes either) , and is also why we in turn ridicule jap bike riders.. see, it works both ways....

[*Oggy*]

Of course everyone should read write-ups... how else would 99% or bike riders get any ideas on whats out on the market and whats good or bad ??

Asking whats better or worse on a Forum..... pmsl... that the worst bias opinions that you would get anywhere...

Now it depends on the reader (future owner), as to what to digest and what to take with a pinch of salt.... Some mags have ex-racers ...some mags have mr Joe average and some have wheelie/mono hoons as their test riders / columists...

Depending on your own perception on how you ride or what you see as "special" qualities, then that will bias you to what mags to read, and what bikes you have been "conditioned" into liking.

Generally there is no smoke without fire, so really good or bad bikes are easier to catagorise....

You will always (however) have the relevent owners justifying why Ducati or Hyosung are really good bikes (honest mate !!!).. or why the Gxr's arent all owned by wide boys.... or why all Honda's arent boring.... etc etc..

I guess it can be a bit rich when a newb who you know hasnt ridden too many bikes starts spouting gospel at someone who has actually owned a few and ridden a few bikes, but some people are more passionate (or precious)... lol

[Nuff]

Oggy, you don't belong in this thread, you have too much common sense :lmao:

[*Oggy*]

Oggy, you don't belong in this thread, you have too much common sense :lmao:

I do ride a Honda !!!! :ayyy:





must get the damn trumpy going.......

[Zakk]

Hey, Cmon this is getting too lovey dovee can we get back to irritating one another now!! What say you Turtle??? HAs anyone seen/heard of Turtle??

[Nuff]

I do ride a Honda !!!! :ayyy:





must get the damn trumpy going.......

The oil burner? :stirthepot:


Hey, Cmon this is getting too lovey dovee can we get back to irritating one another now!! What say you Turtle??? HAs anyone seen/heard of Turtle??

I hope it's fixed now :lmao:

[Zakk]

I heard that was bullshit about the new Blade. I dont think James has had that problem and he's put a good 20km on his blade riding it from the kitchen to the loungeroom - Hey Mr Range Rover, Interstate business class travelling, Ive got FOXTEL, Ive got a brand new Dainese jacket man:baby: Sorry Jealous again.

[Kris]

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/popcorn.jpg

Yes, the oil burning issue does exist but its limited to a rather small group of earlier 08 models.

[Captain]

.. and my thoughts are no different to a lot of guys that ride jap bikes and continually put shit on Ducati's (I am not putting shit on jap bikes either) , and is also why we in turn ridicule jap bike riders.. see, it works both ways....

Mind you, I'm not excusing jap riders who put shit on Ducati, Ok each bike has it's downside (I will admit that Hondas are a little on the 'sterile' side if you admit that Ducati are a little less 'reliable'). I - and many other jap riders - take offence at being looked down at by somone who implies that they have superior tastes ... this being reflected by their choice in bike. Like I said, I am certainly not saying that every Ducati rider has this attitude, but you know full well there's a fair chuck that do.

But I have not quite understood what the jap riders are being ridiculed for :confused1: A less refined palate perhaps?

:stirthepot:

I wish I could find something good to say about the bike reviews; I was going to say that at least you can pick up general trends (but those you get everywhere) or technical details (free from the manufacturer). I find that if you really want to know about a bike, you're best logging on to one of the many forums (brand specific) and read about owners' experiences. And you have to ride the bikes yourself.

[Zakk]

I had two Dukes and they were loved like a red headed step brother but when I bought my zx10 I really enjoyed the riding, not so much the Latte -ing. So in summary without sounding too technical, not trying to confuse the newbs and Trev try not to get jealous of my Indian technical prowess but i would like to conclude:-

Jap Bike = Better riding bike.
Euro Bike = Better Latte - ing.

Hopefully this has cleared up all the fussin and a feudin:ayyy:

[James]

I heard that was bullshit about the new Blade. I dont think James has had that problem and he's put a good 20km on his blade riding it from the kitchen to the loungeroom - Hey Mr Range Rover, Interstate business class travelling, Ive got FOXTEL, Ive got a brand new Dainese jacket man:baby: Sorry Jealous again.

2800 now :ayyy:
Not used any oil at all and I do check it every couple of weeks.
Dainese :drool:

[ozducati]

Mind you, I'm not excusing jap riders who put shit on Ducati, Ok each bike has it's downside (I will admit that Hondas are a little on the 'sterile' side if you admit that Ducati are a little less 'reliable'). I - and many other jap riders - take offence at being looked down at by somone who implies that they have superior tastes ... this being reflected by their choice in bike. Like I said, I am certainly not saying that every Ducati rider has this attitude, but you know full well there's a fair chuck that do.



who said anyone's looking down at anyone?? now you're twisting things a bit.. I don't look down on anyone, and neither do any of the guys i ride with.. it seems (so i have read here and other forums) that non Ducati riders have this thing in their head that Ducati riders (I say riders because our bunch all ride, not latte) all think they're a notch above and won't talk to anyone else blah blah blah.. personally i think it's a crock, i have mates who own and ride other brands.. I am not going to not talk to anyone because of that.. I don't look down on anyone, and I have no problems with anyone talking to me, am always courteous and happy to talk to people about my bike, their bike, someone else's bike.. whatever..

it's statements like yours that continue to create the ideas of "them and us" as you put it .. it's about time we all admit that it doesn't matter what you own, and be proud of it.. I am..

[Captain]

That's good oz :ayyy: but it seems that depite my clear statement that NOT EVERY ducati owner has that attitude, you took it personally. That's regrettable.

Yet you still did not clarify what exactly it is about jap riders that you guys ridicule ...

[ozducati]

That's good oz :ayyy: but it seems that depite my clear statement that NOT EVERY ducati owner has that attitude, you took it personally. That's regrettable.

Yet you still did not clarify what exactly it is about jap riders that you guys ridicule ...

i didn't take it personal.. the fact that you say "ducati owner" at all, means you point the finger at most or lump most in that same basket.. whatever.. which in itself is regrettable.. when was the last time you approached "one of us" .. for a chat .?? i regularly wonder around the pits at EC when i get a chance and talk to "those jap bike owners" (:stirthepot:) .. as well as other ducati owners .. same when i am out riding. anyway, am not having a go at you or anyone else, just saying everyone is approachable.. unless it's the Notorious boys .. :lmao:

and i can't tell you all our secrets.. we might appear too normal then.. :ayyy:

[_chado77]

Yet you still did not clarify what exactly it is about jap riders that you guys ridicule ...

we'll keep it simple then..how about there small penis's:lmao:

[ozducati]

we'll keep it simple then..how about there small penis's:lmao:


:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Captain]

.. the fact that you say "ducati owner" at all, means you point the finger at most or lump most in that same basket.. whatever..

I don't know how else I could possibly say it then :confused1:


That one short statement encapsulates the reason many Ducati riders are ridiculed. Not all, but many.


Like I said, I am certainly not saying that every Ducati rider has this attitude, but you know full well there's a fair chuck that do.

"Many" ... "a fair chunk" .... surely you can tell those words differ from "most" and "the majority". It was intentional.


I'm intrigued by this topic, because to be frank I'm intrigued by human nature, by the way we react socially ... and I'm certainly not above it all either, being human too :D
chaddo's fascination with penises is interesting too ...







(although I thought that it was those with small penises that compensated by buying red flashy cars and bikes ... :confused1:)

:stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

[ozducati]

so you're interested in chado's penis and a red flashy car ?? :spank:

:stirthepot:


:lmao:

[ottospunkmeister]

Sounds like it may be best to buy Jap if you want a sportsbike with performance, reliability and ease of living with and Italian if you want a coffee machine to do the same. You wouldn't buy a Jap coffee machine so why buy an italian sportsbike:lmao:

[Birdman45]

Birdman45 and I don't always see eye to eye, but mate I gotta agree 10000% with those comments.

:ayyy:

hahaha first time for everything