View Full Version : Thinking of turning my Hayabusa into a track bike...
Been thinking of it for a while, and though I keep adding bling, I've been thinking of selling off all my bling bling and making it as light as possible for the track.
I like riding it every day and have done so for the last 5 years, but I also love my car (Impreza WRX), so I'm very tempted to "create" a Hayabusa track bike... rather than get a 400 or 600 trackie like many others do...
Anyone made a Busa track bike or seen one?
ever seen a tug boat in the bridge to bridge?:lmao::lmao:
Captain
26-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Despite what you're saying, I still reckon you'll get a lot more enjoyment out of a 600 :ayyy:
Big Lunt
26-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Do it Do it now!!!
triumph
26-05-2009, 11:36 PM
pan buy another bus and use that as your track bike .
Go away Muzz! :spank:
:lmao:
slow bro
26-05-2009, 11:37 PM
There used to be a couple of black Kiwi race ones. They had trouble getting them around corners without scraping everything & used to side them around corners.
Despite what you're saying, I still reckon you'll get a lot more enjoyment out of a 600 :ayyy:
You've never ridden a Busa, have ya? :dancesmiley:
to heavy pan
a race team in new zealand used to race them but they kept rootin tyres
so they did well at the start then their tyres went west
I saw a busa track bike once and that was in the gravel at OP.
There used to be a couple of black Kiwi race ones. They had trouble getting them around corners without scraping everything & used to side them around corners.
Yeh, won't be the quickest track bike ever, but I love it and I really don't want to buy another 400 or 600... been done too many times...
Let me know if you find out more about those Kiwi bikes! :ayyy:
There used to be a couple of black Kiwi race ones. They had trouble getting them around corners without scraping everything & used to side them around corners.
them blokes maybe
I saw a busa track bike once and that was in the gravel at OP.
Oi! :spank:
Let's not mention that (or Turtle's adventure on Turn 9) anymore! :rules:
rossco
26-05-2009, 11:41 PM
That sounds fun mate. I think you should try it.:stirthepot::clap:
I think there are some guys in the usa that have done something like this...:confused1:
That sounds fun mate. I think you should try it.:stirthepot::clap:
I think there are some guys in the usa that have done something like this...:confused1:
I did some Goggling but can't find much about teh USA one or the Kiwis.
If anyone knows anything, let me know...
PING TEX!!!! Where are you.....? (I think he HAS one)
get ripper to put a coke can fuel tank on it to shed some kilos
then fill tyres with helium
Wow.
Thread is 10 minutes old and there are 16+ responses!
Must be boring stuff on TV! :dohsmiley:
Johnny
26-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Know a member here ( not active anymore though) who rode a busa at the track, ground down his engine casings in turn 9, so was no slouch by any means , then got a K6 1k gix, and wasnt the rider he was on the bus, may of changed now and has got his mojo back, not sure, havent seen him for a year, but he rode that busa very well.
Point is, its what your comfortable on, so think about it and do what pleases you.
But, from someone who also rode daily rain hail or shine for years except when spat off and in pain ( was a regular thing, pain is my friend now), and now not ridden in 6 months, it kills you and nothing can make up for it but rd riding..
Think hard about it mate.
WET4URacing
26-05-2009, 11:52 PM
they were here racin in xtreme in 2000 2001 . stroud and another sheep shagger. they rode out of Actions at parra. they were double deka buses. top ten but never ever gunna win . not even at bathurst. good ruck
I hear ya Johnny!
So many RATS have got rid of their road bike and kept a track bike, and just about all seem to regret it...
My rego runs out in November, so I'm going to take my time thinking about it... :ayyy:
they were here racin in xtreme in 2000 2001 . stroud and another sheep shagger. they rode out of Actions at parra. they were double deka buses. top ten but never ever gunna win . not even at bathurst. good ruck
New Zealand Production Superbike Champions
2004 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
2003 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
2002 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
Is this the bloke?
slow bro
27-05-2009, 12:04 AM
I hear ya Johnny!
So many RATS have got rid of their road bike and kept a track bike, and just about all seem to regret it...
My rego runs out in November, so I'm going to take my time thinking about it... :ayyy:
I got rid of my roady & I've never regreted it. So much more fun on the track.
New Zealand Production Superbike Champions
2004 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
2003 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
2002 Andrew Stroud NZL Suzuki
Is this the bloke?
yip that bloke
WET4URacing
27-05-2009, 12:08 AM
yes but not on a bus
Captain
27-05-2009, 12:08 AM
You've never ridden a Busa, have ya? :dancesmiley:
I must admit I have not ... fair enough. I did ride a blackbird for a year or so, is the busa sufficiently different?
yes but not on a bus
he may have takin a bus to the event:lmao:
I must admit I have not ... fair enough. I did ride a blackbird for a year or so, is the busa sufficiently different?
Is a Busa sufficiently different to a Blackbird? :confused1:
I'll let others answer that one.... :lmao:
he may have takin a bus to the event:lmao:
Oi! That's Strike Two! :spank:
:lmao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYqf6T7XFog
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYqf6T7XFog
:D
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
WET4URacing
27-05-2009, 12:21 AM
17 viewing . record???????
slow bro
27-05-2009, 12:21 AM
Here's one, not the black one I remember.
just thinkin up a strike 3
triumph
27-05-2009, 12:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYqf6T7XFog
:Dlove to have a go at that looks like fun .
Maybe e-mail these guys about some of thier customers or anyone they know of?
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take the engine outta the busa
chuck away the rest
buy honda SP1
use busa engine for boat anchor
thats how you turn a busa into a trackie:lmao::lmao::lmao:
take the engine outta the busa
chuck away the rest
buy honda SP1
use busa engine for boat anchor
thats how you turn a busa into a trackie:lmao::lmao::lmao:
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
you could go this way pan
jasonbw
27-05-2009, 01:02 AM
Just a few short years ago the Busa were being run in the Aus "superbike" rounds... they went pretty well too!
EDIT: Wetty beat me to the info.
zRoYz
27-05-2009, 01:17 AM
Straight up I think some people really need to ask themselves why they ride there bike of choice........bingo because it's the bike that floats your boat. Instead of the you should get this or that bike maybe more input into what Pan should do to his bike of choice to transform it into his track bike of choice.
Seeing there is f$%k all posts yet in this thread with info to help him do what he wishes I'll start:
The first objective would be to decrease weight as much as possible & you can start with the simple things & then progress to the $$ options.
Remove any standard part not needed at track like lights, center stand, extra guards & filler panels not needed.
Things that will start costing $$:
Source fiberglass panels to replace OEM if none aval research what is aval than maybe adapted or even approach a fiberglasser to see if some can be made using your OEM as molds.
Cut down sub frame (forget your model busa) but the early models had an alloy sub frame that did crack so replaced with steel but for track the alloy would be fine as your never going to pillion.
Titanium parts like exhaust, bolts, etc.
Forged wheels but carbon fiber would even be better.
Brake upgrade, fitting a bremo master cylinder or the like & race pads at the very least as busa's are known for brake fade (I'm sure you already have braided lines).
Suspension as ground clearance will be a problem which is why decreasing sprung weight & having suspension suited for track use would be a must.
Engine casing protection due to with enough lean angle on a busa you can scrap them.
Dash removal & replaced with light all in one digital dash, you really only need rpm.
Aftermarket clipons, rearsets any part you can make lighter will help.
More or less it all depends how far you wish to go making the ultimate busa track bike but in the end if just punting it around in standard form is enough to float your boat then simply enjoy. I used a VFR750 for awhile as a track bike & it was probably the most fun I had on the track & it does give you more satisfaction when you overtake the sports bikes because in the end it's the rider not the bike.
sub frame: min's a 99 model. Already got the light one :ayyy:
Titanium exhaust, Already got one :ayyy:
Bremo master cylinder, YES! WANT ONE!
Dash removal & replaced with light all in one digital dash, you really only need rpm. NO! I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW PEOPLE IN THE PITS THAT IT SAYS 340 on the dash! :lmao:
Aftermarket clipons, rearsets any part you can make lighter will help.
Onya Roy! :ayyy:
Muzz, that's strike 4! :spank:
jasonbw
27-05-2009, 09:37 AM
Hey Pan, there's a really cool guy who everyone here loves doing the same thing to his 99 Busa...
http://www.australian-hayabusa-club.com/MyBB/showthread.php?tid=9011&page=1
Dunno
27-05-2009, 10:12 AM
Do it Pan. The cash you make selling the bling could go towards a turbo Or super charger. Some race glass & sticky tyres will have you scaring shit outta people. I imagine the bike will be doin double duties at the drags aswell?
Hey Pan, there's a really cool guy who everyone here loves doing the same thing to his 99 Busa...
http://www.australian-hayabusa-club.com/MyBB/showthread.php?tid=9011&page=1
He's copying me! :dohsmiley:
Do it Pan. The cash you make selling the bling could go towards a turbo Or super charger. Some race glass & sticky tyres will have you scaring shit outta people. I imagine the bike will be doin double duties at the drags aswell?
Oh yeh. I'd be aiming at high 9's, I hope!
WET4URacing
27-05-2009, 10:20 AM
when i was at Suzuka in 2000 Gilesy raced the Yoshi bus . He was next door to the wasters i was spannering for. his hands were blistered by half race. legend
when i was at Suzuka in 2000 Gilesy raced the Yoshi bus . He was next door to the wasters i was spannering for. his hands were blistered by half race. legend
Blistered? What do you mean? Pushing too hard on bars?
WET4URacing
27-05-2009, 11:08 AM
hangin on to the beast. he never did it again.
Krack
27-05-2009, 11:31 AM
When I watched em' at Bathurst they were the only bikes getting consistant air under the bridge after the chase. Curtan was awesome that w/e.
Dean93
27-05-2009, 01:28 PM
At RATs EC track day in Dec last year there was an 08 blue one punting around. Looked like a 4 into 1 with the rego gear removed (blinkers and plate definitely, not sure about the lights).
He was in the fast group and I'm confident he must've been in the 40's. Not a litre bike but I was definitely impressed.....and he seemed to be having a good time.
Brakes upgrage would be good but I reckon that the trick is that you need a suspension maestro to give you some advise (lift or lower/harden or soften/etc ?).
Good luck!
motoplast
27-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Hi ya' Pan, after reading this thread, the only sound advice has come from zROY & Dean93 !.
The 'Busa would make a very good track bike, a bit of a handful at places like Wakefield or Broadford but a shit load of fun. A 'Busa in the right hands on any track would be fast just the tight corners (say under 55kph, eg only) would slow u down. As u know I am building a 'Busa powered race bike and I have campaigned various 'Busa's at several track day's. Yes, they do suffer from poor brakes, the suspension, especially the front, as a base, is good. The rear shock is ok , especially if we shed a few kilo's off the bike. U are on a good thing that is different from the norm, go for it. I would be only to happy to turn the spanners for free to convert ur 'Busa into a track day weapon so u can surprise all the knockers who have never thrown a leg over one!.
I will give u a call soon & discuss!:ayyy:
Cheers,
Tex & Bundy
holdontight
27-05-2009, 02:48 PM
Great idea pan. I bike you know and love. Track it out and theres 1/2 the KG's goooorn already. I think your on a winner that'll make plenty of peaple shit brickes when you put the heat on them in the faster corners & do the fly bys on them down the strights.
hangin on to the beast. he never did it again.
If he was hanging on like that he needs to do Superbike School Level 1!!! :dohsmiley:
stetto
27-05-2009, 09:39 PM
I reckon do it, the busa dimensions are very similar to a ZX7R and they get around corners fine. U got 10kg more but nearly double the power. It'd be unique too, which sounds like part of ur motivation
trumpst
27-05-2009, 09:56 PM
You were doing pretty good in stock standard Busa form at Wakefield poking around in 3rd gear drill! I reckon you feel so comfortable on that bike - to turn it into a trackbike would be great.:ayyy: Go for it!
I reckon do it, the busa dimensions are very similar to a ZX7R and they get around corners fine. U got 10kg more but nearly double the power. It'd be unique too, which sounds like part of ur motivation
Kinda like me getting a ZX7 track bike, eating lots of pizzas and gaining 10kgs!
Sounds good!
stetto
27-05-2009, 10:33 PM
Kinda like me getting a ZX7 track bike, eating lots of pizzas and gaining 10kgs!
Sounds good!
And twin turbo charging it
hey pan speak to ray at easyrider imports about cutting weight, he has his busa at about 180kgs wet.
jasonbw
27-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Easyrider (Ray) would help source parts for you too... I've bought a few bits from him (10l oil from Oleon) and aftermarket bits.. top bloke, you can trust what he says.
Yeh, I know Ray really well. I wish I could ride like him!!!!
greenb5
28-05-2009, 01:38 PM
Good luck with this Pan - I reckon a set of BST CF wheels and reworked suspension would be first on my list, then brakes and weight reduction etc...as suggested by zRoyz.
After a year of Busa ownership I understand where you are coming from :ayyy: I'll be punting the Bus around Oran Park on the 7th, and the its getting braided lines and BT-003s next week. Its no 600, but still a lot of fun.
BST CF wheels - Mmmmmmmm.
just remember pan when oran park shuts every man and his dog will be only using e/c and the price will most likely go up again.
James
28-05-2009, 08:49 PM
just remember pan when oran park shuts every man and his dog will be only using e/c and the price will most likely go up again.
Still cheaper than a speeding fine :ayyy:
Still cheaper than a speeding fine :ayyy:
awsome, the price must have dropped my last fine was $160.
jasonbw
28-05-2009, 08:58 PM
HA HAHAHAHA GOOD luck :D Nice one.
Turtle
28-05-2009, 09:54 PM
ever seen a tug boat in the bridge to bridge?:lmao::lmao:
:lmao:
Big Lunt
29-05-2009, 01:16 AM
At RATs EC track day in Dec last year there was an 08 blue one punting around. Looked like a 4 into 1 with the rego gear removed (blinkers and plate definitely, not sure about the lights).
He was in the fast group and I'm confident he must've been in the 40's. Not a litre bike but I was definitely impressed.....and he seemed to be having a good time.
Brakes upgrage would be good but I reckon that the trick is that you need a suspension maestro to give you some advise (lift or lower/harden or soften/etc ?).
Good luck!
Yep I was there that day he was going at a decent pace but still my under powered r1 was able to go quicker:ayyy:.
I stayed behind him for a few laps as he was spinning up the rear when exiting....looked like a hairy beast to ride but he must have had the adrenalin pumping through the veins!!! Takes some serious kahoonas to ride a bike like that at that pace
I'd love to see Wayne Gardner have a few laps on a Busa to find out what times it could really do!
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