Attempted Theft

[6ixxer]

Saved by the Kryptonite...

Overnight some prick tried to steal my bike.
Gouged my ignition and cut my home made ground anchor only to find they couldn't get the Kryptonite chain off the rear wheel to ride it away.

Now i get to put in a claim and cage it to work for a few weeks.

We'll see how insuremyride stacks up for service.

Cheers,
Trev

[Captain]

Damned bastards .... and good news :ayyy:
Was it on the street or in a garage? Whereabouts?

[Johnny]

Lucky boy!

[RIPPERTON]

GO the home made ground anchor :ayyy: :ayyy: :ayyy:

[saf]

What Cap'n said. Though if it were anchored it was likely in a garage.

Is the garage viewable from the street? Do you usually rev the tits off your bike when you come home or do you putter home in 5th without wanting to attract attention. Who would know it was there? Had any work done to it lately from a new shop?

Problem with this is yeah you're lucky they didn't get it but they know where you live and what you've got. Your insurance is going to go up as long as you live there too due to this fiasco.

[clarkey]

Sorry to hear .....scum bags around:cursing:

[wade193]

Lucky. Did the cops come out?

[Mr.Ed]

Congrats on a well protected bike!:ayyy: It's not often they come out empty handed... :(

[Dave75]

don't you just wish you had caught them doing it.

[Mozzie]

Low life fucking assholes. Glad they didn't get your bike mate.

[6ixxer]

It was in a 'secure' basement carpark (I use the word secure very loosely).

If you come into visitors you can see my bike through the gate. The problem is that any garage of this type attracts theives; its not an isolated incident. I've lost 1 across and had another's ignition gouged. Nutter lost 2 bikes in one night and Ozfighter lost two on separate nights.

This time they also broke into two cars and stole tom tom's and remotes to the gate. One of the weak links is remotes left in cars. When one goes missing and strata isn't advised to change the codes it leaves the rest of us vulnerable.

I take solice in the knowledge that my chain and lock blunted their cutters and my ignition broke their screwdriver :P

Now i'm having a *monster* anchor point designed by my brother in law ;)

...pics of damage later...

[6ixxer]

the old ground anchors will soon be upgraded to even beefier ones.

20 odd mm hardened jobbies.

next time prick, bring the jaws of life.

[Pymm]

good stuff mate, glad to hear your loots are safe for another week!!

[6ixxer]

its damn inconvenient you see, i now have to use my spare anchor (on the other side) while I wait to get the ignition fixed and design a thief mincing booby trap.

[Pymm]

looks like you're in a shared underground carpark?

would putting up cameras that only view your space inhibit privacy laws?

[6ixxer]

Lucky. Did the cops come out?

I didn't ask them to (just lodged an event with the police assist line), so unless the owners of the two cars did?

Unfortunately from experience I know they can't generally get any usable prints or forensically match the tool marks to a database of every screwdriver or boltcutter ever sold.

Pymm, we have signs saying we have cameras (not that we do :confused1:) so people would't have any legal leg to stand on if they object.

[dilbee]

maybe a tilt sensor with alarm to bike. Soon as you hear it go running down with a 4x2 piece of wood.:beatdeadhorse:

[saf]

This booby trap idea is enticing... Surely these pricks will strike again. Once you said 'shared carpark', I know several people who had their bikes stolen from shared carparks. What can the RATS Brains Trust put together?

I was recommending elsewhere earlier this week about getting an IR sensor connected to a chime. Keep the chime in your room. They sell 'em at Jaycar quite cheap.

[the rocketeer]

Good to hear that they didn't escape with the real goodies... has anyone thought of a GPS tracking unit? ideas/experiences/stories??

[saf]

Or you could hook the sensor up to the security panel on the gate. Does the building have an alarm?

[the rocketeer]

This booby trap idea is enticing... Surely these pricks will strike again. Once you said 'shared carpark', I know several people who had their bikes stolen from shared carparks. What can the RATS Brains Trust put together?

I was recommending elsewhere earlier this week about getting an IR sensor connected to a chime. Keep the chime in your room. They sell 'em at Jaycar quite cheap.

I recall finding this the other week: Review of Scopio i900 paging alarm (http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50802&sid=d01ac59c8369fa289de84ac108cab822)
Seems like it will deter the thieves away...

[6ixxer]

maybe a tilt sensor with alarm to bike. Soon as you hear it go running down with a 4x2 piece of wood.:beatdeadhorse:

I life on the 5th floor.

Wouldn't hear anything.

Wouldn't be able to get downstairs quick enough if i did.

[NuTteR]

Glad to hear they didnt get anything this time mate. What a bunch of pricks.

[Nuff]

You could do what I did and move to a place with a LUG, but that's not a 100% fix either. I'm thinking about getting an anchor for the new place I'm moving to.

[6ixxer]

I recall finding this the other week: Review of Scopio i900 paging alarm (http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50802&sid=d01ac59c8369fa289de84ac108cab822)
Seems like it will deter the thieves away...


The two-way communication range is not so good though as expected. It's not 800m as advertised, more like 300-400m. And that's in clear line of sight, with properly extended/raised antenna in the bike.

underground concrete carpark = paging fail.

i probably need microwave sensor with 2 stage siren.

i'd prefer something to happen before they damage my bike.

have been considering killswitch and even homemade ignition guard.

[saf]

I've always wanted a proximity alarm that has a programmable alarm tone. That way I could leave a message.

[dilbee]

cant you cage in that area? that would stop them getting near your bike. Get a group meeting with the strata owner and tell them they must do something about this.

[Johnny]

5th floor ?

Guessing it has elevators ? take bike up in elevator mate, nothing you do will stop them taking it if they want it, they know where it is now..Shared garages are just too easy, too many poeple have access, and too many people have bigmouths..
When I first moved into where I am now ( justa few weeks ago), even though it has a double lock up garage, I slept in there with it till I got it "safe safe" .

[the rocketeer]

underground concrete carpark = paging fail.

i probably need microwave sensor with 2 stage siren.

i'd prefer something to happen before they damage my bike.

have been considering killswitch and even homemade ignition guard.

I think Pan had something like this on his busa... the proximity warning alarms, etc. Ultimately you would want to blast their ears off so it wakes as many neighbours as possible... IMO it's a good investment (however i've heard stories about ducatis + aftermarket ignition killswitch = not good, so i'm continuing my research)

[6ixxer]

cant you cage in that area? that would stop them getting near your bike. Get a group meeting with the strata owner and tell them they must do something about this.

Short answer: No and haha-no. (have you ever dealt with strata companies?)

Too many rules, bylaws and such prevent me from caging my space. I sank those anchors without permission cos I had no chance of getting it.

Groups must consist of more than one person in order to be classified as a group. Everyone else is only interested in the fact that it will cost them money and will vote against any motion i put forward to protect my bike.

As for the bike going to lvl 5; been there done that when going away for a few days but doing it every morning and evening during the lifts heavy usage periods will get all sorts of noses bent out of shape.

I'll stick to the plan of more locks, chains, anchors, booby traps and dragons.

[usual suspect]

What was the location the bike is kept at for those others like myself that live in western sydney??

[saf]

Your only effective option with alarms that would;

1) necessarily mounted on the bike, an alarm that generates a sound so loud it will disrupt the thieve's ears. Approx >130dB. This could be generated from a high end amplifier rigged up to a simple computer monitoring program with out of the way speakers mounted near the ceiling. This would be ideal.

2) An alarm system that has sufficient and throughly tested wireless or otherwise hardwired if a window is accessible, that notifies you. The downside of this is that it requires your instant action and risks your safety and wellbeing with a potential attacker. This is not ideal.

[dazzler]

you know what we need.......

detachable ignitions, i dont know how but this definitely is possible

[jasonbw]

Nahh Dazz, most bikes are just lifted into a van mate... or rolled away then lifted... the stock steering locks are a joke.

MY best mate, ex Vietnam vet (NZ SAS) Mouri (explosives exp) rigged a shaped charge to blow such that it will seperate the hand from the wrist if someone tried to take his Harley... his partner is a high up female cop, made him take it down cause too many kids come by. :D Right idea tho... maybe a better position would be in the right position on the seat? :D

[Captain]

MY best mate, ex Vietnam vet (NZ SAS) Mouri (explosives exp) rigged a shaped charge to blow such that it will seperate the hand from the wrist if someone tried to take his Harley... his partner is a high up female cop, made him take it down cause too many kids come by. :D Right idea tho... maybe a better position would be in the right position on the seat? :D
An old trick is to stick two nails under the car seat, wired through a coil (or a capacitor) to the battery so that when the thief sits down, not only does he get spiked but he gets a nasty shock to boot. Wouldn't recommend it, any bobbie trap will get you in heaps of trouble, even if it would be oh so satisfying
:spank:

Oh and the nail trick? You have to remember to remove them before you sit down ...

[saf]

That reminded me of this Cap'n.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyuKEK7wmsw

[jasonbw]

Rayden ... WINS........... FATALITY

[oz r1]

An old trick is to stick two nails under the car seat, wired through a coil (or a capacitor) to the battery so that when the thief sits down, not only does he get spiked but he gets a nasty shock to boot. Wouldn't recommend it, any bobbie trap will get you in heaps of trouble, even if it would be oh so satisfying
:spank:

Oh and the nail trick? You have to remember to remove them before you sit down ...

:lmao:I worked for a place a few years back that the forklifts where assigned to an individual and you had to use that fork every day and maintain it,well this one dude would jump on any fork and left the assigned operated stranded and scratching his ass , so we ran a copper wire from the coil around the underside of the seat and then to ground :ayyy:he did'nt take anyones fork after that.:)

[6ixxer]

would you say its taboo to drill a hole in your triple clamp?

I'm thinking a reasonably thick metal ignition guard and lock it with a pin/padlock system.

would like to make something that doesn't need to have the hole drilled, but they wouldn't be as easy/secure.

[Johnny]

would you say its taboo to drill a hole in your triple clamp?


:lmao: your kidding right ?

[6ixxer]

not if it stops someone stealing it.
a hole i can live with. I'm getting tired of people taking/damaging my stuff :(
eg: some aftermarket triples are designed with holes in them
https://shop.tocc.biz/images_products/thumbs/t_17473.jpg
open to any serious idea to secure my ride in my car space without it costing big $$$.
I still have to be able to ride this bike daily, and the wife may need to move it to get the car out.

[muzz]

Nahh Dazz, most bikes are just lifted into a van mate... or rolled away then lifted... the stock steering locks are a joke.

MY best mate, ex Vietnam vet (NZ SAS) Mouri (explosives exp) rigged a shaped charge to blow such that it will seperate the hand from the wrist if someone tried to take his Harley... his partner is a high up female cop, made him take it down cause too many kids come by. :D Right idea tho... maybe a better position would be in the right position on the seat? :D

go them maori fullas aye cuz hahahahahahaha
then he would beat him to death with the severed hand
and call it suicide:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[likatiger]

Hook it up to 240V. DEAD PEOPLE DONT SUE

[MarkyGG]

connect an ouzzie :lmao:to the ignition anything other than the lock position sets of the ouzzie. the only real problem is how to dispose of the body? see there's always a catch:stirthepot:

[Tarrasque]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HWf0MoS-xk

[6ixxer]

Bike has been repaired (quicker than i thought) and returned already.
no complaints about insuremyride for speed of claim.
had to put in web claim on sunday17 cos their phones were off, but talked to them monday and they sent a bike transporter to get it pretty quick and its back in just over a week and they managed to re-code the seat and tank locks to the new ignition key too.

So now i'm looking at sinking thick hardened mofo ground anchors and going to see if its worthwhile designing an ignition guard. Will probably make a mockup from cardboard and if its a goer it'll be made out of steel and hopefully no more busted ignitions.

[zRoYz]

The problem you will have is a very simple one, the low life scum sucking pieces of shit that will try to take your bike are also the ones that will damage it just because they can't take it out of spite. There is no way to stop that unless you have a way to not let them gain access to your bike at all which is almost imposable in a multi dwelling car park. You can spend big money on all types of locks but in the end they will still do damage which in turn will cost you money again. You have to remember most of these scum suckers aren't real bright so seeing you have your bike securely locked doesn't register with them it's all to hard go away, they will still try get frustrated & do damage.

The only way to be 100% safe is have your bike hidden which again in a multi dwelling you can't as all types see you come & go.

Set of flats I lived in everything in the security car park got broken into so much people ended up leaving nothing in there cars with doors unlocked, the bigger bolts & counter measures the more damage they did. We all had separate garages with lockable doors + the main security door. Even if you setup video the cops don't do shit if you supply them with footage, they simply don't care due to insurance.

[OzFighter]

Damn man, just read this. Sucks about your bike man, but you should have known it was only a matter of time before this happened again. That was part of the reason i got out of there. No way i was going to keep buying bikes just to have them pinched or damaged every second month. Now i live on the central coast where i can leave my keys in my bike all week and my front and back doors unlocked 24/7 and not worry about a$$hole f*#king thieves stealing my shit.

Surely now strata has to wake the fk up and do something about the problem. Its going to keep on going on for years and years until somethings done.

I feel for ya mate, but at least it looks like you have security plans of your own so that's good. Give em hell!

[6ixxer]

I put in ground anchors cos the strata couldn't get the other owners to agree to spend money on security. The owners don't care as long as they get their rent cheques.

The new strata agent gave me a slightly sarcastic 'you shouldn't have done that' after she found out I put them in, but she knew i needed them and wouldn't have gotten permission cos of all the red tape and arse covering. Her hands are tied unless she has a written instruction from the owners that passed a vote.

Also, I'm not spending big money, just solid DIY security measures.

[OzFighter]

Man, i tried thinking about the situation from all angles when i was there and getting my bikes knocked off. The only solution that sounded like it could have worked was the plan to build a reinforced bike garage down there, but that plan would never work due to all the red tape BS. Even if it could be built it wouldnt stop them trying.

All i can say is be on your guard cause they'll be back to try again

[6ixxer]

They won't be using boltcutters on the replacement anchor.
My brother-inlaw tried cutting the rod he used before he shaped and hardened it and barely managed to dent it.

[2ndclasscitizen]

would you say its taboo to drill a hole in your triple clamp?

You can definitely drill the triple.

[6ixxer]

i'm working on something thats non-drill obviously, but i'm the kind of person who says "now that i've made it, how would I break it off if I was a lowlife prick?", and then i realise my design was flawed and start over.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Something properly drilled won't break off. I've got bar risers through the triple of my K5 and if my riding on Sydney's roads won't do it, I doubt some oxygen waster's going to be able without pulling the front of the bike apart or hitting it with a sledgie.