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Captain
25-04-2009, 07:50 PM
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Valentino Rossi - 1st

This is a very good start because we’re at the top and this is very important,” emphasised the six-time MotoGP champion. The conditions today were hard and it was difficult to reach the limit and work to the maximum with the bike and tyres, but it looks like we have a good potential here so I am happy. It’s important to be in front, even though it’s only Friday, because in Qatar we were second, second, second in every session and really we don’t like second so much; for sure first is much better!”

Casey Stoner – 2nd

We’re not too far from setting some very decent lap times and considering how cold it was this afternoon I think everything has gone as well as we could have expected. It looks as though the weather forecast is not good for tomorrow so this session might not turn out to be so important in terms of qualifying, but then if it’s dry again on Sunday it could turn out to be crucial. In general the bike feels quite good - we need to try and find a bit more grip on the rear and we have a few ideas that we think could work - but now it’s just a case of seeing what the heavens throw at us tomorrow and dealing with that as best we can.”

Jorge Lorenzo – 3rd

”I’m so happy with this practice session because we often struggle a bit at the start of the weekend but today this wasn’t the case at all and I felt great from the start. My M1 felt good when braking, under acceleration and in the corners so I think we are in good shape and now I hope we can continue like this tomorrow even if it rains, in fact I am quite curious to see what happens in the rain and how the lap time is.”

Chris Vermeuelen – 4th

“It wasn’t too bad, we are a lot closer to the pace than we have been here in the past. The forecast for Saturday is rain so it was very important to try and get as much done and be as quick as we could in the first session, because this might be our only dry session. Suzuki have done some good things with the bike. The important thing with Motegi is accelerating off the corners onto those long straights and the bike seems to be a bit better at that so things are looking better than they have done before.”

Colin Edwards – 5th

”I’m sure that if I had run the softer compounds I could have gone quicker, but Bridgestone think that the hard front and rear will be what I’ll need for the race. It feels to me like the left side of the tyre is a little bit too hard and I’ve got to make sure I get it warmed up. The right side feels really good, but you can’t take too much risk in the beginning on the left, but once it comes to temperature it works fine. Today was all about gathering information. My thinking even yesterday was to start with the hard tyre because we knew it was going to be cold and the forecasts were showing rain for tomorrow, so I needed to get some information in the dry before the race.”

Loris Capirossi – 6th

“We need more time to get the bike just right. It is working quite well but we still have a bit of work to do on the setting. The conditions didn’t help today because it was very cold and we couldn’t get the tyres up to temperature. We used one set of tyres for the whole session and the left side still looks like new! We will see how things turn out tomorrow, but there is a forecast of rain and then it might be fine for the race, so we will just have to see what happens.”

Andrea Dovizioso – 7th

It was a strange practice because the conditions were really cold and it was difficult to get temperature into the tyres, so that was the big problem. These are the conditions, but normally we don’t ride here in these temperatures. We also need to adapt the electronics system because the bike was too aggressive, so that was why we didn’t go so fast. I really hope that tomorrow we’ll have two dry sessions to work with, though it’s not looking too likely”

Marco Melandri – 8th

It took us nearly all the session to understand that we need to use the softer tyre with the second bike, because the weather is a little cold. The big problem for us is that Bridgestone brought a harder left side to their tyres, which are difficult to warm up in the first three laps. With the session being so short, long runs are difficult to make. The medium tyres are a little too hard for me. The soft ones look a bit too hard on the left but the right seems ok. I know that (Mika) Kallio had a crash when the tyre was cold, because you go a long time without riding on the left at this track. However, there’s such a difference between the two tyres that there is really only one choice for the race.”

Toni Elias -9th

“The conditions were probably even more difficult today than they were in Qatar because the cold was incredible. The problem we’ve been having all preseason getting heat into the tyres is exacerbated by the low track temperatures but Honda have brought us some new chassis parts here that have helped. We are still too far from where we need to be but I was the second fastest Honda today, only a tenth off the fastest one, and even though I am not satisfied with the position the important thing is we’re closing the gap.”

James Toseland - 10th

“That was a bit more like it. Right to the end I was looking good to be around the top six but I caught (Yuki) Takahashi on my last lap when the tyre was working pretty good, so I’m sure I could have got into the 1.49s. My guys have done a great job because I had a slightly different setting on the front fork today to get a bit more control under braking. This place is all about hard braking and that is an area I’ve needed to work on. I’ve got a bit more control on initial braking so it doesn’t upset the bike as much when I’m turning in. I ran most of the session on the hard tyre with the weather not looking too good for tomorrow, but I did try the softer one at the end just to check on it. I doubt we’d be able to run it in the race, even if the temperature is quite low. So if it rains tomorrow and it’s dry for the race, at least I know I’ll run the harder tyre. It was a difficult first race but we’re not losing motivation and my team have all stuck together. Rain or shine I’m determined to get a good result for them and Yamaha in their home race.”

Dani Pedrosa – 11th

“It’s exciting to be back at Motegi for Honda’s home race, though we didn’t get as far forward today as we would have liked. We went in the wrong direction with our set-up for this practice, which meant that we couldn’t get as far forward on the timesheets as we should be. It looks like it’s going to be raining tomorrow so perhaps we won’t so much more set-up time if the race is dry, but still, we’ll continue to work on the settings and see how things pan out tomorrow.”

Nicky Hayden – 12th

“The track was quite slippery when we first went out and the air felt so cold, with the humidity, it felt like it could rain any second. We certainly had to be careful getting some heat into the left side of the rear and into the front. We tried a few things out with the set-up – I ran both bikes and worked in the direction we’d found in Qatar, where the balance of the bike had felt much better in the later laps, with less fuel on board. Obviously the lap time isn’t great but we improved with every run and pretty much every lap, we got a good number laps in just in case it does rain tomorrow and we worked out a basic direction we need to take for the race, so I’m satisfied.”

Alex De Angelis -15th

“The change in temperature from the heat we had here yesterday to the cold today certainly changed the cards on the table and for us it meant that when we rolled the bike out we ran into the same kind of problems we had in the Qatar test, when it was similarly cold. We have rear grip issues and even though the guys made some changes during the session that seemed to work, by moving the balance to the rear I had problems keeping the front end down in the hard acceleration zones and I had to close the throttle, which obviously loses time, so we need to look at the data tonight and try to find a better compromise.”

Randy de Puniet – 16th

“Today’s conditions were not very good and the track surface was too cold. I started on a harder front tyre but after some laps my feeling was strange and I decided to change it. After that I felt more comfortable but the bike was “hard” to ride and could not lap as I would like. At the end I made a mistake because I thought it was my last lap so I missed one lap losing several places. However I think that the lap time is not so bad considering the track conditions. We must improve the suspension set-up but we are not very far from the right setting. I am a bit worried about the weather conditions for the rest of the weekend”.

Mika Kallio -17th

“Looking at the classification today, it went really bad. I don’t know what happened when I fell; I lost control of the rear without even accelerating. This has complicated our work today and we will have almost to start from zero tomorrow morning. I hit really hard my left ankle, but for the moment it seems like nothing too serious.”

Niccolò Canepa -18th

“I really like the track. I have used this session to learn the best lines to follow. It will be difficult to reach the other riders with only two forty-five minute free sessions, but I will do my best. I found the circuit very slippery, most of all where Mika has fallen. During this session I have used only one rear tyre and having registered my fastest lap time after 20 laps give me some hope for the rest of the weekend.”

Motegi FP1 Results and Times:

01 Valentino ROSSI - Fiat Yamaha Team - 1′48.545 286.472
02 Casey STONER - Ducati Marlboro Team - 1′48.601 284.885 0.056
03 Jorge LORENZO - Fiat Yamaha Team - 1′48.965 294.117 0.420
04 Chris VERMEULEN - Rizla Suzuki MotoGP - 1′49.382 291.813 0.837
05 Colin EDWARDS - Monster Yamaha Tech 3 - 1′49.697 289.466 1.152
06 Loris CAPIROSSI - Rizla Suzuki MotoGP - 1′49.980 288.615 1.435
07 Andrea DOVIZIOSO - Repsol Honda Team - 1′50.030 278.350 1.485
08 Marco MELANDRI - Hayate Racing Team - 1′50.123 287.769 1.578
09 Toni ELIAS - San Carlo Honda Gresini - 1′50.209 293.000 1.664
10 James TOSELAND - Monster Yamaha Tech 3 - 1′50.342 289.621 1.797
11 Dani PEDROSA - Repsol Honda Team - 1′50.391 283.315 1.846
12 Nicky HAYDEN - Ducati Marlboro Team - 1′50.393 287.081 1.848
13 Yuki TAKAHASHI - Scot Racing Team MotoGP - 1′50.404 286.548 1.859
14 Sete GIBERNAU - Grupo Francisco Hernando - 1′50.538 284.510 1.993
15 Alex DE ANGELIS - San Carlo Honda Gresini - 1′50.601 282.648 2.056
16 Randy DE PUNIET - LCR Honda MotoGP - 1′50.669 285.487 2.124
17 Mika KALLIO - Pramac Racing - 1′51.643 290.010 3.098
18 Niccolo CANEPA - Pramac Racing - 1′51.929 273.141 3.384

Captain
25-04-2009, 08:00 PM
A few pics from free practice:

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_1andreadovizioso00.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_2caseystoner01.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_andreadovizioso02.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_chrisvermeulen01.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_jamestoseland01.jpg


These are just three RATs at Eastern Creek, turn 9

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_danipedrosa05.jpg

Mrs Mozz
25-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Which one is you?:lmao:

Thankyou captain, where do you get this info? Motogp.com tells you bugger all and along comes Cap with all the goods.:clap::clap::clap::ayyy:

Turtle
25-04-2009, 08:47 PM
A few pics from free practice:
http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-prove-libere/big_2caseystoner01.jpg




Love that "Belly-pan" exhaust Casey has.........wish i had one for mine..............

Captain
26-04-2009, 09:26 AM
Vermeulen talks about qualifying ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9tuQesDtwU


Due to torrential rain and standing water on the track all three grand prix classes qualifying sessions at the Twin Ring Motegi Circuit were cancelled today.

Grid positions for all classes have been decided by combined practice times.

MotoGP starting grid:

1. Rossi (Ita-Yamaha) i 1′48″545
2. Stoner (Aus-Ducati) +0″056;
3. Lorenzo (Spa-Yamaha) +0″420;
4. Vermeulen (Aus-Suzuki) +0″837;
5. Edwards (Usa-Yamaha) +1″152;
6. Capirossi (Ita-Suzuki) +1″435;
7. Dovizioso (Ita-Honda) +1″485;
8. Melandri (Ita-Kawasaki) + 1″578;
9. Elias (Spa-Honda) +1″664;
10. Toseland (Gbr-Yamaha) +1″797;
11. Pedrosa (Spa-Honda) +1″846;
12. Hayden (Usa-Ducati) +1″848;
13. Takahashi (Jap-Honda) +1″859;
14. Gibernau (Spa-Ducati) +1″993;
15. De Angelis (Rsm-Honda) +2″056;
16. De Puniet (Fra-Honda) +2″124;
17. Kallio (Fin-Ducati) +3″098;
18. Canepa (Ita-Ducati) +3″384.


But, more difficult still is ordering dinner from the Japanese restaurant :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuj2l_pWmk

Ed_GSXR
26-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Amazing pics. How come JPM never get me looking quite as cool as those guys? :confused1:

Zee
26-04-2009, 01:51 PM
12.30pm start :mod_smilie_rockwoot

Zee
26-04-2009, 03:00 PM
125's on the warm up....sunny but wet track :eek:

Zee
26-04-2009, 03:51 PM
Fuk me!...how'd Bradley Smith stay on that :dropjaw:

_chado77
26-04-2009, 03:56 PM
Fuk me!...how'd Bradley Smith stay on that :dropjaw:


done well.....face plant into the screen:dohsmiley:


hoping it continues to dry out for the GP

Captain
26-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Poor bastard .... he's probably hurt more than it seems.

Zee
26-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Simo's back ...should be firery ....they're off :ayyy:

_chado77
26-04-2009, 05:29 PM
wohoo..gonna be dry at least:mod_smilie_rockwoot

Cedric
26-04-2009, 05:57 PM
It's on!(FTA) Hopefully should be a good race. Does Rossi have a picture of Stoner on his helmet or was I seeing things?

_chado77
26-04-2009, 06:49 PM
edited heading for those recording etc etc



good race with usual suspects at the pointy end..

lorenzo on fire:mod_smilie_rockwoot..i like this guys attitude reminds me of a young rossi..he'd be fun to :beer: with

pedrosa for an injured ride:clap::clap:

but seriously they need more bikes on grid.. 13 finished?

Cedric
26-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Good race, little bit of slicing and dicing in the top 4. Didn't see much of the others though.

I doubt Takahashi is still on Hayden's Xmas card list anymore though!

slow bro
26-04-2009, 06:59 PM
Good race, little bit of slicing and dicing in the top 4. Didn't see much of the others though.

I doubt Takahashi is still on Hayden's Xmas card list anymore though!

+1 :lmao::lmao:

clarkey
26-04-2009, 07:03 PM
Good race, little bit of slicing and dicing in the top 4. Didn't see much of the others though.

I doubt Takahashi is still on Hayden's Xmas card list anymore though!

:lmao::lmao: Was he throwing kitty litter at him cause he couldnt get up, poor bugger cant buy a win :(

James
26-04-2009, 07:04 PM
Great to see Pedrosa (+ Honda) up there. Also a great race for Melandri :ayyy:

Top 3 almost on equal points now - can't wait for the next race

_chado77
26-04-2009, 07:04 PM
seems like the 2nd factory ducati is the bogey bike of the grid..

melandri 1st..hayden possibly following MM path:storm:

its a bit egotisical for bridgestone having 1st place embroided caps on the podium considering they are the only ones who can get there now:lmao:

Captain
26-04-2009, 07:07 PM
+1 on Melandri, good to see.
I would have preferred anyone over whoregay, but a good race, for sure.

RobotPimp
26-04-2009, 07:38 PM
Good race! Feel sorry for Hayden... he's having a prick of a start to the season.

Two hours to Superbikes! :mod_smilie_rockwoot

nbrown
26-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Good race! Feel sorry for Hayden... he's having a prick of a start to the season.

Two hours to Superbikes! :mod_smilie_rockwoot

+1 :mod_smilie_rockwoot :mod_smilie_rockwoot :mod_smilie_rockwoot

nbrown
26-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Happy to see Fiat 1 & 2 :ayyy:

I think its a Yamaha year :mod_smilie_rockwoot

Zee
26-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Wow...no ones written Stoner off yet :D

zenodamper
26-04-2009, 08:07 PM
Was good to see Melandri showing them he actually can ride (never doubted him) - would suck to see a career go down the pan from a few bad choices; but has happened before....

nbrown
26-04-2009, 08:11 PM
Wow...no ones written Stoner off yet :D

Sorry I will have a go then.

I think he's finished. :spank:

That's the best I have. He is still up top 3 so he still has a chance as long as he can stay on his bike and be consistent.

Love the Fiat :mod_smilie_rockwoot

Zee
26-04-2009, 08:13 PM
:lmao:

Thanks...I was getting worried then :ayyy:

nbrown
26-04-2009, 08:15 PM
:lmao:

Thanks...I was getting worried then :ayyy:

No problem happy to hope on the Stoner bashing wagon :drivingsmiley:

Big Lunt
26-04-2009, 08:17 PM
I am backing it up with:

Once again put stoner amongst a few bikes and he chokes

Sorry but yes he is fast but can he race........that is another question

Good to see lorenzo and pedrosa up there

Hats off to melandri - representing the Kawasaki club!!

And oh yeah ROSSI ROSSI ROSSI

Thats it for me

Falco
26-04-2009, 08:25 PM
Does'nt Pedrobot break easily...mentaly that is.
Always right in there with a good sniffy but just follows to the black'n white.
Rossi broke him again by regaining position straight away, thought for a sec Danny went to dark side and was feeling the force.......the Jedi master Rossi he is.

Im guessing the garage wall in the Fiat Yamaha camp wont be coming down any time soon.
Lorenzo Land lives again. :lmao:

Falco
26-04-2009, 08:27 PM
I am backing it up with:

Once again put stoner amongst a few bikes and he chokes

Sorry but yes he is fast but can he race........that is another question

Good to see lorenzo and pedrosa up there

Hats off to melandri - representing the Kawasaki club!!

And oh yeah ROSSI ROSSI ROSSI

Thats it for me


Pffttttt.......Pleeeeease!

oz r1
26-04-2009, 08:28 PM
Just a bad start for casey , he would have mixed it with them if not for the bad start, i'm a big rossi and stoner fan but i'de rather this type of racing and mixing it up will make it a thrilling year.

clarkey
26-04-2009, 08:31 PM
Pffttttt.......Pleeeeease!

too right , i think a very different tyre choice that may not have worked as planned ...neither did Rossi,s though

dazzler
26-04-2009, 08:34 PM
stoner said something about his front brake when he came into his pit garage....

however good to see the other bikes on the pace stoner wasn't really catching them by much as the commentators said

zRoYz
26-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Stoner problem looked to be more tyre choice as his bike was moving around more than normal at the start, mid race was when he started to come good so sacrificed to much early. That track doesn't suit the duk anyway & is no wonder the yam's did well as they normally have the best package at stop/go tracks. Would have thought the honda would have been better being there home track.

oz r1
26-04-2009, 08:43 PM
Stoner problem looked to be more tyre choice as his bike was moving around more than normal at the start, mid race was when he started to come good so sacrificed to much early. That track doesn't suit the duk anyway & is no wonder the yam's did well as they normally have the best package at stop/go tracks. Would have thought the honda would have been better being there home track.

Have a look at his lap times , apart from the first handful of laps(as is the duc in most races a bit slow to warm the tyres) he matched it with all of the front runners, you just can't give the likes of lorenzo , pedrosa and rossi a head start. I'm sure if he had nailed the start he would have pushed to keep pace,and if he indeed did have brake problems then he did a great job catching back up . He is only 3 points behind rossi and there's a whole season to go yet, i think this season you'll see casey consolidate if he thinks there's no chance of a win ,as not to chuck it down the road like last year.

Captain
26-04-2009, 08:48 PM
That track doesn't suit the duk anyway & is no wonder the yam's did well as they normally have the best package at stop/go tracks. Would have thought the honda would have been better being there home track.
I was suprised just the same, because I'm sure Magee said before the race that the stop-start nature of this track (hard on the throttle, hard on the brakes, hard on the throttle) will suit the Ducati.
Probably I misunderstood.

Falco
26-04-2009, 08:52 PM
i think this season you'll see casey consolidate if he thinks there's no chance of a win ,as not to chuck it down the road like last year.

Out in front on both occasions last year when crashed, almost certain it was the next two rounds after Laguna Seca....easy 50 point advantage for the championship.....bahh who cares now that was last year. :ayyy:

RIPPERTON
26-04-2009, 08:54 PM
That was a top race
Rossi just about got owned having 2 ppl pass him, is he slipping or what, was it just a good day for Lorenzo ?

Alex.
26-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Once again put stoner amongst a few bikes and he chokes

Sorry but yes he is fast but can he race........that is another question

What's the story with people bagging out Stoner? Here's a guy who did it the hard way to get into Motogp through family sacrifices, crashes etc, and it seems like people (thankfully not everyone) put shit on him.

Personally i'll always support an Australian no matter the sport, so long as we're represented and winning.

Besides, if these armchair critics were any good then we'd be reading about them in the press.

Big Lunt
26-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Who was bagging?

Simple observation statement that is all - why are people so defensive about it - sure I could react too when people bag out other racers that I support.

Big Lunt
26-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Pffttttt.......Pleeeeease!

Cmonnnnnn!!! Not you Falco

Falco
26-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Cmonnnnnn!!! Not you Falco

:lmao::lmao:

All good mate.... its that time of the year again. :ayyy:


P.S. Go Casey!!!!! #1

Big Lunt
26-04-2009, 11:06 PM
I know I know

Well he has a bit of competition this year thats for sure .......gee them Hondas had some legs on them today!!!! What ever they brought in for the race worked well

Bigdog
27-04-2009, 01:32 AM
At least Rossi didn't win, thats some consolation ;)
Well done to Lorenzo he fully deserved the win.

triumph
27-04-2009, 02:40 AM
I am backing it up with:

Once again put stoner amongst a few bikes and he chokes

Sorry but yes he is fast but can he race........that is another question

.i would like to see you do better .

Big Lunt
27-04-2009, 09:24 AM
I never mentioned that I could do better and would I be able to get anywhere near their riding probably not.

Anyone else?

Captain
27-04-2009, 09:45 AM
Well done to Lorenzo he fully deserved the win.
Yes, that he certainly did. I do find him annoying, but damn he rode well. Did you all notice the body language between Rossi and whoregay? Looks like Rossi likes him even less, it should be an interesting year. I missed the post-race comments though, what did Rossi have to say? Was he having problems with the tyres?

Also the Ducati result is surprising, again it looks like Stoner is the only rider that can ride the damn things. I'm glad for Melandri, like many I had a laugh at his expense last year but I always liked him and originally held high hopes for him. Good to see it wasn't his 'fault', so to speak.

Say what you will about SBK (and I love 'em) ... but motoGP is a class above.

Captain
27-04-2009, 09:54 AM
I found some quotes: I really wonder what went on with Rossi, if I didn't know bettter (and I don't) it sound like he was rattled in some way, not like him at all :confused1:


Jorge Lorenzo (Fiat Yamaha) 1st:

“First of all I just want to thank my team, my Mum, Dad and whole family, my friends and all the team workers. Also Yamaha, as it is their home race, it was a difficult race because I didn’t really get a very good start, I think I even finished the first lap in third or fourth. After that I began to catch up the pace. I passed Valentino and opened up a little gap, about a second and a half, and he was following me very hard. I had to ride the best I can to get the victory.”

Valentino Rossi (Fiat Yamaha) 2nd:

“It was a great race, long, very difficult and also physical. I got a really good start from the front row, but there was a part of the race that I wasn’t quite able to ride like I wanted, there was some kind of problem and I wasn’t fast enough to pull away. I lost time from Jorge and then was involved in a battle with Dani and then in the last part of the race I was able to step up my pace and pick my lines, setting some good lap times. I tried to come back but unfortunately Lorenzo was too far away. It’s a good race, second place is not a victory but it’s still twenty points for the championship. I think the championship will become very interesting now because we have four riders ready to battle for wins at the end.”

Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda) 3rd:

It’s a great result. I don’t think that anybody expected it. I think I could have even taken second, but when I passed Rossi he seemed to wake up and see that he had to go faster. Hopefully with the situation we are in now this result will create a good feeling, and I think that the motivation within Honda to make progress will increase. We still have to sort out some issues on the machine, but it’s a very positive result going in to the Jerez. After six months of problems with my knee –surgery, being scared to push things, no testing- I took a podium and I’m very happy with this. I only have to thank the doctors for getting me fit to be here.”

Casy Stoner (Ducati Malboro) 4th:

“The race in general I am quite happy with, as I think I rode quite well. The team did the best job they could this weekend, with the short time that we had, and everybody else is in the same situation. We were running lap times which would have made me capable of racing at the front if we hadn’t lost so much time at the beginning of the race. On my warm-up lap we found we had a problem with my front brake which was causing a lot of chattering and this was the case for the first six or seven laps so I had no confidence on the brakes.Today’s result looks worse than it could have been. I think if things go a bit better in Jerez and I can stick it out more at the beginning of the race we can hopefully be up there for the fight.”

Chris Vermeulen (Rizla Suzuki) 10th:

“I’m really disappointed today, because I got a good start, the bike felt good and I thought a decent result would be possible.”I pushed as hard as I could and tried to hang on to the back of Valentino. From about the second or third lap I started to have a problem shifting gear heading into the turns and it made it difficult to stay consistent. I felt like I’d got it under control, but then the problem got worse from about lap six as I lost all shifting up and down without having to shut the throttle or use the clutch - so it was quite difficult. Other than that the bike worked really well and I felt like I could have challenged somewhere close to the front, but that’s all ifs, buts and maybes and we now have to make sure what caused the problem today never happens again.”

Nicky Hayden (Ducati Marboro) DNF:

“That was exactly what we didn’t need. I got a decent start and I think I was up a couple of positions but just going down into the hairpin, which is a slow hard-braking corner, I was on my line and Takahashi just took me down. There was no warning - I didn’t even hear anything! I don’t want to say much about that, I don’t want to look like a cry baby but, you know, it was the first lap… luckily I feel okay. I actually landed in the same place on my back as the crash in Qatar and my leathers and helmet have got exactly the same marks.

Birdman45
27-04-2009, 12:06 PM
That was a top race
Rossi just about got owned having 2 ppl pass him, is he slipping or what, was it just a good day for Lorenzo ?

He is on the same tyres as everyone else. What I have been saying for years now. Sure he's a great rider, and they all are, and on the same tyres I always doubted he would dominate the way he had on the past.......... so far so good on that theory. He may very well still win the championship, but you will never see 10sec penalties being out ridden etc like in the past.

Shame about CE, what the hell went on there?

Captain
27-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Some pics:

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_1jorgelorenzogara03.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_3valentinorossigara01.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_andreadovizioso09.jpg

This one i really like
http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_chrisvermeulen06.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_danipedrosa00.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_danipedrosa12.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_0jorgelorenzogara00.jpg

Captain
28-04-2009, 09:14 AM
Vermeulen AFTER the race.
I really like the bloke, but honestly, he needs to work on his mental state. BEFORE each race he's all pumped up, 110% positive, he's going to go out there and surprise people, maybe even win (his words) and most often after each race he's like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GgAnHJGsW8

You cannot confuse your brain this way, it's not enough to think positive and then negative, too much of a rollercoaster. Expectations need to be realistic, less emotion. IMO.

Birdman45
28-04-2009, 12:04 PM
Pretty self explanitory I rekon, before the race he didn't have that problem so he couldn't factor it in to his enthusiasm......... I dunno what you think he should have said .... "it was awesome, I thought I was gonna have fun, but when the part in the gear box went, I thought "yee haa" now THIS will be great". Hahaha Edwards no doubt would have had similar to say and did from what I remember, thought he'd be up for a podium fight but when the shit went wrong, he was way back and had nothing for a few laps. Tellin it like it is if you ask me. I know you didn't. Haha

Birdman45
28-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Just out of interest, here is an email between CE's ol' man and him about what happened in the race.

This is a copy of two emails from after the race between Colin II and me (Snr)


Subject: Re: Motegi
What happened dude ?? The commentator said you had problems with the engine mapping ?? Talk to you soon.
Pop (Snr)
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Subject: Re: Motegi
Pop,
They had the mother****ing rain map in my bike!!!!!!!! Un****ing real!!!!!! Anyways, I'm cool, not sure about my electronics guy though, think he just bought a one way ticket outta here. Give you a buzz when I get to England.
Your Son

Captain
28-04-2009, 01:32 PM
My point has been missed ... and I'm certainly not suggesting he jumps up with joy ... there are grades of enthusiasm and dissapointment.
Birdman you need to have a look at ALL his pre and post-race commments and you will see the pattern. IMO you cannot build unrealistic expectations, you're setting yourself up for dissapointment.
That's MY view anyhow.

Birdman45
28-04-2009, 02:07 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong per say just don't get what you think he should do exactly? If he was to set himself up pre race the way he has finished previously he'd be thinking "why the fuk bother? Waste of time"........ These guys are kings of expecting the world and getting nothing only to return the next week and do the same. I'd think they'd take it on a week to week basis though and not be carrying baggage from the last weekend, it's a whole new ball game next week after all.

Captain
28-04-2009, 04:28 PM
We're all different in the way we are motivated ... some need to be real hot (like listen to loud music, get excited etc) and others need to calm themselves down. I am the latter.
IMO only; Vermeulen errs by building up expectations, before the race he speaks much too highly of expecting to be on the podium, even of surprising people and maybe get a win, so that he's putting too much pressure on himself. After the race, when he fails to meet those expectations he's really dissapointed, all too often he finds 'excuses' for it ... well, you'd need to, when you've built it up so much, wouldn't you?
The thing is, as a one-off you can do it but when it's the same every time you start to lose credibility; amongst others but more importantly in yourself too. That's why I'm insistent that you need to look at the other videos too, it's a pattern here, it's not a one off due to mechanical failure.

Krack
28-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Gee, that's a major fuck up from Edwards' crew.

gobig2000
29-04-2009, 12:26 AM
Yeah if thats for real he should have gone all Christian Bale on his arse!!

gobig2000
29-04-2009, 12:32 AM
Who was bagging?

Simple observation statement that is all - why are people so defensive about it - sure I could react too when people bag out other racers that I support.

Your kidding right? the guy had an epic battle with rossi last year giving it to him better than anyone I have seen he is ice cold man.

And he isnt my fav rider by the way

gazujc
29-04-2009, 10:28 AM
Once again put stoner amongst a few bikes and he chokes




The guy just cannot win with some poeple (and you aren't alone with the sentiment, just using it as an example).

In 2007 he blitzed the field and was able to maintain his health and have no bike issues throughout the year.

In 2008 he was second behind a resurgent Rossi. Throughout the year it was tougher, he had bike issues at times, physical issues caused by injuries and unlike in 2007 he crashed a few times in the races, which some put down to pressure whilst others say that he just can't race and succumbs to pushing to hard.

Now in 2009 he has one win and a fourth yet still people question.

Last year when he crased after Laguna people said that he needs to learn to 'settle for position' instead of the balls out push to the limit style that had made him successful the previous years. It was said that he is best to consolidate rather than throw away points.

So, in race two of 2009 he does just that, things aren't right and his team admit that he likely had a dodgy pair of front brake pads which caused excessive front end chatter. So he does the sensible thing (IMO) in that he rides within the limitations of that problem and as things improve so do his laptimes sufficiently thus that he overtakes Dovisioso and claims fourth.

Certainly fourth is not ideal nor would it likely be acceptavle to him, but by the time the problems had cleared or he had gained sufficient confidence in the machine the main three were well gone, so he got the best he could on the day. Yet people still pick flaws.

What do we want?

Championships are built on consistency and collection of points and that fourrth place rather than a lower position or a DNF will prove important at years end, whether it separats Stoner from second third or fourth, it will be important.






Garry

Birdman45
29-04-2009, 10:33 AM
No, we want a situation where, regardless of what happens, someone gets hammered and it is never good enough. LOL

Captain
29-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Hayden-Takahashi crash pic

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/3478643957_e1f517e3ef.jpg

wade193
29-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Wow, big crash.

Mr.Ed
29-04-2009, 11:31 PM
Am I tripping or Rossi doesn't even have his foot on the peg here?:confused1:
http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-motegi-01/big_3valentinorossigara01.jpg

Captain
29-04-2009, 11:39 PM
That little black thing could be the gear lever ...

gazujc
30-04-2009, 12:01 AM
That little black thing could be the gear lever ...

+1.

Look at Lorenzo's foot and it also is off whatis the lever.




Garry

Mr.Ed
30-04-2009, 02:51 AM
It does give the impression that Lorenzo is about to hit Vale's foot with his shoulder... whatever it is, they both know what they're doing I suppose.