Qatar 2009 SPOILER

[Captain]

The first stop in the 2009 series. According to the bookies, Stoner is the favourite for the win, and he has promised to be more aggressive this year.
But Rossi is not far behind: motoGP news (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Stoner+continues+on+the+pace+as+Qatar+weekend+open s)

Until the race, here's a little video showcasing scenic Losail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhlFURTGq7o&feature=channel_page

[Bigdog]

Results after this mornings free practise:

MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 1 Classification
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Motorcycle Lap time Km/h Gap
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'57.053 328.967
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'57.439 327.471 0.386
3 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'57.835 322.677 0.782
4 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'58.272 326.579 1.219
5 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'58.452 326.975 1.399
6 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'58.468 323.643 1.415
7 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 1'58.499 328.367 1.446
8 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'58.506 325.693 1.453
9 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'58.757 324.812 1.704
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'58.771 321.332 1.718
11 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'58.850 320.000 1.797
12 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'59.094 327.471 2.041
13 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'59.158 324.519 2.105
14 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'59.348 316.437 2.295
15 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 1'59.437 319.621 2.384
16 59 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando Ducati 2'00.595 323.547 3.542
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 2'00.597 317.927 3.544
18 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 2'01.435 326.876 4.382

[Captain]

Maybe Pedrosa and Melandri go their transponder numbers mixed up :confused1:

[Bigdog]

Pedrosa is still injured and was riding with a lot of pain.
Mika Kallio looks to suit his Ducati very well. He has been faster than Hayden who is on the full factory Ducati

[Big Lunt]

I think it's going to be a ripper race

Looks set for some close racing

Hope Edwards can mix it up with stoner andd rossi would be great to see someone get in the mix

[Birdman45]

Goooooooooooooooooo CE. He usually goes well here, so the new front tyre should hopefully help....... GP time........ can't wait

[1down5up]

comments from a few riders
CASEY STONER (Ducati Marlboro Team) 1st (1'57.053)
"We've made a good start today and I'm happy because the bike feeling was really good straight away. The settings we brought from Jerez seem to be working well here too. We still need to change a couple of things to get more grip from the rear. A lot of that is due to the track conditions being really dusty but we just need to take our time and try to get it set up better for tomorrow. Hopefully the track will clean up too."

NICKY HAYDEN - (Ducati Marlboro Team) 13th (1'59.158)
"Today wasn't a great day. To start with I had a problem with a sensor on my first bike and I had to come back after just three laps of my first run and change to my second bike. The set-up wasn't the same and the clutch wasn't quite right. The 45 minutes flew by and we weren't able to get back o
n the pace we set here in the test. Obviously I'm going to need both sessions tomorrow to work something out and get on the pace. Casey and Valentino are already looking really quick but we're not too far off the group behind them. Hopefully with the right changes to the bike tomorrow we can get amongst them."

Circuit Record: Casey Stoner (Ducati - 2008), 1'55.153, 168.193 Km/h
Best Pole: Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha - 2008), 1'53.927, 170.003 Km/h
Valentino Rossi

Position: 2nd Time: 1'57.439 Laps: 18


"This evening I am quite happy because at the test we were one second from Casey but now the gap is much less. We had some ideas after the test to improve our pace and I am happy to say that they all seemed to have worked. I am fast, I have a good pace and I am happy with this opening session. We can still improve; the track was quite dirty tonight so I think that tomorrow we will be able to push a bit harder. It's much warmer than at the test and this is helping us too, I am more confident and I can ride my M1 how I want to. It's strange only having 45 minutes in a session and you have to be quite well organised and plan more in advance, but on the whole it doesn't seem so bad to me. This weekend I have a special sticker on my bike, which says ?Forza Abruzzo.' It's a message from us for the people of Abruzzo, where the earthquake was last weekend. It's not so far from my home in Tavullia and I want them to know that we are with them at such a terrible time."
Loris Capirossi:
"For the first practice it was not too bad, but we did struggle a bit with the setting. In the recent test it was not perfect so we tried a new one and this didn't work as well so we will use some stuff from that and go back to the old one. We have a good idea what we need to modify tomorrow and I am sure we will be stronger. 45 minutes seems a really short time and it is difficult to get a lot of work done, also with the limited amount of tyres - especially on such a dirty track - made it quite tough. Overall we are quite pleased and we will have quite an easy way to improve tomorrow!"


Chris Vermeulen:
"It was not really the start to the weekend that we wanted. We have a limit on tyres and didn't really want to use any of the hard front tyres that we will be using for racing. We tried to make the softer one work and we were going not too bad in the beginning of session, but at the end I kept the front tyre in and there was a lot of movement in the front of the bike and struggled to keep corner speed up. It was a bit frustrating that we couldn't go as fast as we have been round here, but I still have all my hard front tyres left and hopefully the speed will come back when we put that in."

Colin Edwards 3rd 1.57.835 - 17 laps

"I'm pretty happy to have started close to the front because it is always important to try and hit the ground running. We played around with the front-end mainly because I had a few issues at the last test in Jerez with movement on the front tyre whenever I tried to really push hard. It was a bit like a speed limit in Jerez but the changes we have made feel really good. It's not a massive change, I'm only talking a millimetre here and there but it has taken away some of that movement and that is crucial for me because I'm such a front-end guy. I'm happy it was the right direction too because you really can't afford to waste any time with less track time now. You've got to back yourself and your team that the changes you make are going to be an improvement, and tonight it worked out. I've still got some small issues but I needed to make this change because it is obvious the way I force the handlebars with my arms is different to Valentino and Jorge. I'm happy to have got a good start for the Monster Yamaha Tech 3 team and give Herve something to smile about on his birthday!"

found this on youtube criss the v on the first pratice session
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLqPX42gzk0&feature=player_embedded

[zRoYz]

Goooooooooooooooooo CE. He usually goes well here, so the new front tyre should hopefully help....... GP time........ can't wait

I honestly like the guy BUT after all this time in motogp with no wins is just sad, 2nd, 3rd are also nobodies unless at the end you get the championship due to consistency. He really is another rider just making up the numbers, I would prefer these guys step aside & let some young guns have ago.

[hoffy]

Glad I watched the vid, Qatar looks exciting........NOT !

[Captain]

Glad I watched the vid, Qatar looks exciting........NOT !
I was hoping to at least see a camel ...

[Cedric]

Good to see Kallio up there fighting with the establishment on the Ducati.. Come on Vermeulen, you can do better than that!

I hope CE continues his good run too. Always great to see him up there as he tells it how it is, and always gives a good show. Glad to see he's adapted to the Bridgestone tyres coming from a lead Michelin development rider position.

[oz r1]

SPOILER qualifying















I know there's some rats that don't want to know about some results , so i warned you in advance .

Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Motorcycle Lap time Km/h Gap
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'55.286 337.183
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'55.759 334.158 0.473
3 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'55.783 336.973 0.497
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'55.977 333.642 0.691
5 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'56.149 332.512 0.863
6 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'56.194 330.882 0.908
7 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'56.358 327.868 1.072
8 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'56.493 325.791 1.207
9 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'56.790 332.103 1.504
10 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 1'56.852 338.028 1.566
11 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'56.962 330.983 1.676
12 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'57.225 333.848 1.939
13 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'57.510 328.567 2.224
14 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'57.729 338.557 2.443
15 59 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando Ducati 1'57.899 330.882 2.613
16 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'58.215 332.614 2.929
17 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 1'58.784 327.968 3.498
18 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 1'58.999 328.467 3.713

damn .473 better than rossi :ayyy: go casey , i know it's different in the race but :) that's cool , where's wally (hayden) whats the excuse now.

[Birdman45]

I honestly like the guy BUT after all this time in motogp with no wins is just sad, 2nd, 3rd are also nobodies unless at the end you get the championship due to consistency. He really is another rider just making up the numbers, I would prefer these guys step aside & let some young guns have ago.

He would have had 2 or 3 wins if not for team orders and THAT moment in Assen, which I wouldn't count, it was his own fault, but the team orders certainly were not. I think the guys in the paddock know who deserves to be there and why, how well they finished with the backing they have within that team etc etc........if top 5 most years you race is "filling grid places" then I spose we should just leave it to Stoner and rossi for the rest of the year, that'll be fun. LOL

as for Hayden, he had a massive hi-side. It was huge too, there is footage or pics floating around of it if you search for it.

[Big Lunt]

Hayden -pffffttt

[Birdman45]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/llascala/qatar_hayden_crash_qp_09.jpg

Hayden's hi-side

[wade193]

That is a "high" side. Get out the ice packs for the hurt pride

[oz r1]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/llascala/qatar_hayden_crash_qp_09.jpg

Hayden's hi-side

Hi side :omfg: any higher and he could change the light globes for the track lighting.

[Mr Bones]

Looks like it would have hurt.

I'll be up for the poor mans telecast! :ayyy:

[stetto]

Until the race, here's a little video showcasing scenic Losail.


:lmao:

[1down5up]

hayden has had a very bad weekend friday both bikes had problems (not running) sat blew a motor big time and a HUGE highside , new bike ( thats not easy to ride ) new team , a team mate thats nearly 2 sec quicker give the bloke a a break he has had only about a hour on track all weekend be a aussy and give the bloke a fair go ( and i dont realy like the guy ) its funny how ppl that wouldnt get within 30 sec of his lap time are the first to hang shit on someone ( give him 1/2 a season then hang it on him if he deserves it )

tyres are the big thing tonight the top guys say that the hard one that every 1 will be useing for the race new:rules: remember will be sliding with 8 to 10 laps to go so it should make for a top race and might suit haydens style of riding at the end .
so watch the round black things . i think are going to be the star of the show in the am
dam i feel like a kid on xmas eve bring on season 09

[1down5up]

This just in:

STONER SETS POLE ON DIFFICULT DAY FOR HAYDEN


Casey Stoner will start the 2009 MotoGP World Championship from pole position in Qatar after a dominant performance in today's single qualifying session, which saw Nicky Hayden suffer a spectacular crash that has left him battered, bruised and doubtful for his Ducati race debut tomorrow night. The American is suffering severe pain in his back and after undergoing some initial x-rays at the circuit medical centre, he has been taken to a local hospital for further checks. He also required three stitches in a cut on his chest and a decision on his participation in the race will be made tomorrow.

As he had done in each of the free practice sessions, Stoner set the pace throughout this evening's 45-minute grid shoot-out and rarely looked threatened at the top of the time sheets, leading nearest rival Valentino Rossi by over a second for the majority of the session before the Italian closed the gap to 0.432 seconds at the end.

However, the Australian's first question to his mechanics on his return to parc fermé was not about his own authoritarian performance but about the condition of Hayden, who he had seen left strewn in the gravel at turn eight following a sickening high-side. It was the latest episode in a luckless weekend for the American, who suffered an engine breakdown in today's final free practice.

CASEY STONER (Ducati Marlboro Team) 1st (1'55.286)
"It rained a little bit at ?lunchtime' between the two practice sessions today but it was gone as quickly as it arrived and we were relieved that we were able to ride at all. There is a little bit of dust and dirt that seems to come down with the rain here so we knew the track conditions would be slick and the lap times wouldn't come down much. The reality was that there was so much dirt out there that the softer compound tyres worked virtually like a qualifier and only lasted for a couple of laps. Even on a race tyre it is hard to predict whether your set-up is going to work because the conditions are different every time we go out so we're going to have to wait and see what tomorrow brings. It's impossible to guess what could happen in the race but generally I'm happy with our set-up and the main thing for us at this early stage is to pick up points, keep working on our weaknesses and make sure we don't make the same mistakes as last year by getting to the middle of the season with problems to fix. The whole team are keeping our fingers crossed for Nicky too. Hopefully he can ride tomorrow but the most important thing is that he's okay."

NICKY HAYDEN - (Ducati Marlboro Team) 16th (1'58.215)
"I don't feel like going for a jog right now, I can tell you that much! It was a big crash and I'm in a lot of pain so we're going to get some more x-rays done and see what the score is".

Circuit Record: Casey Stoner (Ducati - 2008), 1'55.153, 168.193 Km/h
Best Pole: Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha - 2008), 1'53.927, 170.003 Km/h
press releses for all other teams here

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/090411qm.htm

[Birdman45]

My mail is Stoner fast for 1 or two laps, struggles with race sim pace, Capirossi race sim is fast and should be one to watch out for, Lorenzo fast for one or two laps, got nuthin otherwise, should go backwards. Time will tell, bring this shit, on, can't freakin wait. I;m hoping what you said is right 6speed, I've been bitchin for a single tyre rule in GP for years. It's put up or shut up haha for me anyway,..

[BART]

Bloody rain :(

[oz r1]

hayden has had a very bad weekend friday both bikes had problems (not running) sat blew a motor big time and a HUGE highside , new bike ( thats not easy to ride ) new team , a team mate thats nearly 2 sec quicker give the bloke a a break he has had only about a hour on track all weekend be a aussy and give the bloke a fair go ( and i dont realy like the guy ) its funny how ppl that wouldnt get within 30 sec of his lap time are the first to hang shit on someone ( give him 1/2 a season then hang it on him if he deserves it )

tyres are the big thing tonight the top guys say that the hard one that every 1 will be useing for the race new:rules: remember will be sliding with 8 to 10 laps to go so it should make for a top race and might suit haydens style of riding at the end .
so watch the round black things . i think are going to be the star of the show in the am
dam i feel like a kid on xmas eve bring on season 09

There is probably no one on rats that could get within 30 seconds of his lap times :confused1: this is his chosen profession , i don't dislike the guy at all but am sick of his excuses why he couldn't back up his 06 championship and his last two years and why pedrosa has a better bike :crysmiley: i agree that casey developed the bike and it does suit casey's style or that he is just a much better rider but i think he is going to be another milandri but just a little bit better. I would gladly eat my words to see him up there fighting with casey and rossi and co but i just cant see it happening.

[Birdman45]

Oh you've got to be kidding me...... these guys are pro's, they ain't "excuses" they are legitimate reasons behind why they ain't fast. Honda screwed him well and truly, they are great at doing it, he wasn't even spose to win that championship with the shit they put him through, and he still did, to me that says just how f'kin good he is. You don't win a title in this arena and then have to back that up or get out coz you suck. hahaha That's laughable. You can only ride as fast as the bike underneath you allows. Evebn Stoner doesn't like the new Chassis Ducati have, and I am eager to see how he holds up over a whole race and not 1 or 2 laps.

[Birdman45]

Well, he held up pretty well. hahaha Qatar though, his own lil love fest, so see what happens in Japan. Rossi was way further back after round one last year after this race, so he's looking good again.

Results:

1 25 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 42'53.984 165.539
2 20 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 43'01.755 165.041 7.771
3 16 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 43'10.228 164.501 16.244
4 13 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 43'18.394 163.984 24.410
5 11 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 43'21.247 163.804 27.263
6 10 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 43'23.867 163.639 29.883
7 9 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 43'27.611 163.404 33.627
8 8 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 43'28.739 163.334 34.755
9 7 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 43'33.465 163.038 39.481
10 6 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 43'36.268 162.864 42.284
11 5 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 43'42.510 162.476 48.526
12 4 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 43'42.867 162.454 48.883
13 3 59 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando Ducati 43'46.199 162.248 52.215
14 2 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 43'50.363 161.991 56.379
15 1 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 43'54.270 161.751 1'00.286
16 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 44'08.962 160.853 1'14.978
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 44'09.012 160.850 1'15.028

[SIX36]

The new tire rule hasn't made for any closer racing???

[Birdman45]

Not yet, and as they were saying on the TV, this track doesn't lend itself to close racing anyway........ It may have been closer if Stoner hadn't got away so well, he had a full second on them on the first lap, just an awesome start. But the tyres did play a big factor and you could see some guys who went to hard too early were getting caught and passed with 6-10 laps to go, while others, like Hayden, did his fastest lap on the last. haha I wouldn't put too much in to this track and how close it was, others should make for some awesome stuff I rekon.

[oz r1]

Not yet, and as they were saying on the TV, this track doesn't lend itself to close racing anyway........ It may have been closer if Stoner hadn't got away so well, he had a full second on them on the first lap, just an awesome start. But the tyres did play a big factor and you could see some guys who went to hard too early were getting caught and passed with 6-10 laps to go, while others, like Hayden, did his fastest lap on the last. haha I wouldn't put too much in to this track and how close it was, others should make for some awesome stuff I rekon.

Racing will get tighter between casey and rossi , i think the smaller tighter tracks will really test these tyres to the max. hopefully we will see a few others challenging for the top few spots during the year.

[Captain]

Thanks ... I stayed away from the other thread because of the "spoiler". Awesome mate :ayyy:

[Big Lunt]

There is probably no one on rats that could get within 30 seconds of his lap times :confused1: this is his chosen profession , i don't dislike the guy at all but am sick of his excuses why he couldn't back up his 06 championship and his last two years and why pedrosa has a better bike :crysmiley: i agree that casey developed the bike and it does suit casey's style or that he is just a much better rider but i think he is going to be another milandri but just a little bit better. I would gladly eat my words to see him up there fighting with casey and rossi and co but i just cant see it happening.

Within 30 seconds - hell yeah are you kidding??

[Birdman45]

Thanks ... I stayed away from the other thread because of the "spoiler". Awesome mate :ayyy:

sorry , did I wreck something for ya? I just posted the results here coz it was titled Qatar 2009

[Captain]

Well, that title well and truly pre-dates the race, doesnt it? Like I said , I intentially steered away from the other because it had "spoiler" in the title.
Never mind.

[gazujc]

A little something from the race.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9381/deangelispedrosa1.gif





Garry

[Turtle]

Faark that was close....

[Cedric]

Reminds me of Jerez 2005..

[triumph]

looks like he gave him a bit of a touch up .

[Turtle]

looks like he gave him a bit of a touch up .

Typical comment from you when it involves 2 blokes....

[Dunno]

Racing will get tighter between casey and rossi , i think the smaller tighter tracks will really test these tyres to the max. hopefully we will see a few others challenging for the top few spots during the year.

Traditionally they say that the championship doesn't begin until they reach Europe. Probably use Qatar & Japan as shake down races & then its game on at Jerez. If you can win 2 or 3 of these early European races on the trot you are on your way to a World Championship. Unless of course you fall in practice at Assen & smash you leg to bits :(

[Johnny]

Stoner is my nominee for the acadamy award, the bloke is the best actor I have ever seen. Just like all actors, he knows how to use the media to his advantage..
Just a week or two ago, he said he was having troubles completing more than a few laps without pain, and that his wrist could not take more.. Making sure all media took note of this while he was at it too.. ( setting his excuse up)

Now, that he's won, apparently the wrist problem was something that causd him trouble last year ( cause he never won), and his wrist is now 100%..


I say :Rossi:........ .

Sorry, patriostism asside, the bloke shits me to tears with his never ending excuse train, but alls good when he is winning routine.
He's like a book with the punchline on front page, no need to read it as you know the outcome . :Rossi:

[Turtle]

Stoner is my nominee for the acadamy award, the bloke is the best actor I have ever seen. Just like all actors, he knows how to use the media to his advantage..
Just a week or two ago, he said he was having troubles completing more than a few laps without pain, and that his wrist could not take more.. Making sure all media took note of this while he was at it too.. ( setting his excuse up)

Now, that he's won, apparently the wrist problem was something that causd him trouble last year ( cause he never won), and his wrist is now 100%..


I say :Rossi:........ .

Sorry, patriostism asside, the bloke shits me to tears with his never ending excuse train, but alls good when he is winning routine, he's like a book with the punchline on front page.

Thats Not nice Johnny, where's ya Aussie spirit mate......
I spoke to Casey on the phone yesterday and he was telling me how much better his wrist is

[Johnny]

Aussie spirit and patriotism is alive and strong here, just hate sooks who look for excuses.

[Turtle]

Aussie spirit and patriotism is alive and strong here, just hate sooks who look for excuses.

I suppose you don't like Max then ??

[Johnny]

I suppose you don't like Max then ?? I miss Max in the Gp actually, but he's shoes has been filled by our very own so its not that bad:lmao:

[gazujc]

Aussie spirit and patriotism is alive and strong here, just hate sooks who look for excuses.


Geez Johnny, that describes every rider in the top class at one time or other.




Gaz

[SLAC]

Stoner is my nominee for the acadamy award, the bloke is the best actor I have ever seen. Just like all actors, he knows how to use the media to his advantage..
Just a week or two ago, he said he was having troubles completing more than a few laps without pain, and that his wrist could not take more.. Making sure all media took note of this while he was at it too.. ( setting his excuse up)

Now, that he's won, apparently the wrist problem was something that causd him trouble last year ( cause he never won), and his wrist is now 100%..


I say :Rossi:........ .

Sorry, patriostism asside, the bloke shits me to tears with his never ending excuse train, but alls good when he is winning routine.
He's like a book with the punchline on front page, no need to read it as you know the outcome . :Rossi:

So......I am sure with your contacts Johnny you would be right to know that his wrist wasnt a problem last year? :stirthepot:

Granted they (rossi & stoner included here) can all put the BS :baby: on and win an award, but on serious note it took me close to 3yrs with 2 lots of surgery to recover 100% from my wrist breakage. So i can understand how long it takes to get over something like that.. I even rode with it broken and know that it hurts like hell and is hard to do anything properly..

There my 2 cents worth.. :dancesmiley:

[Johnny]

How did I know I may of offended for saying my opinion, which was based on what he said himself, only to change when suits ? :lmao:
Was he himself who said last year that his wrist was a major problem, and possibly reason why he never went so good, was also he who said just last week he couldnt do more than a few laps without pain and could not do more, and it was he who said yesterday, that his wrist is a 100% good now.. Lets see how he feels in a couple of weeks, depending on win or lose :lmao:

[Captain]

To be honest, I remember a few members saying that his wrist was fine, that it was all mind games to put the others off ... and that he will be fine when he comes to racing.
Looks like they might have been right :confused1:


:ayyy:

[Johnny]

Agreed Captain, whinging always has an excuse or can be defended when flying the same flag :stirthepot:



:p

[mag57l]

Rossi is just as big a cry baby as Stoner (if not even a bigger one) It's Rossi's way or not at all. Give me the best tyres, my bike is shite make it faster or i will quite. They are all as bad as each other. They want to win and they will say and do whatever it takes to do that.

Thats racing.....

[Johnny]

Rossi is just as big a cry baby as Stoner (if not even a bigger one) It's Rossi's way or not at all. Give me the best tyres, my bike is shite make it faster or i will quite. They are all as bad as each other. They want to win and they will say and do whatever it takes to do that.

Thats racing.....

Agreed on that entirely..


Just wish Vermuelin would get up there and win more often, he is what we need !

[dazzler]

he did well CV did! and Cappa looked the business too till.....

a few more races a bit more tinkering and those GSV-R's will be in the top 6 more often than not. if it gets all mixed up with different bikes winning all the time that would be cool!!!!

tell you what though..... the racetrack looked empty with only 17(?) out there not that a couple more would make a difference but after watching the fuller grids of the 125's and the 250's the big bikes just dont look as cool.... grid wise that is

[zRoYz]

Top level sports there is always mind games so the point is?

On the Stoner topic there was x-rays of his wrist showing the problem, he had an operation, then also had his hand in plaster, didn't ride much at all preseason. Now I'm not an expert but lets use some logic, if your wish is to be world champ motogp wouldn't you want to do all the testing & development you can before racing starts. Stoner didn't, would you walk around with fake plaster when you could have just used a splint & bandage to fake it.

So those that think he was faking must be orthopedic specialists & have also been able to examine his wrist for a diagnoses :lmao: You guys must also know what it is like to ride a motogp bike & the stresses it places on your body :confused1:

I for one don't give a flying f$%k what comes out of his mouth, what he does away from the track or anything else about him, I'm simply proud there is an Australian kicking ass in motogp & is one out of the top two riders in motogp.

Kick ass Stoner you have my support 100%

[Turtle]

Rossi is just as big a cry baby as Stoner (if not even a bigger one) It's Rossi's way or not at all. Give me the best tyres, my bike is shite make it faster or i will quite. They are all as bad as each other. They want to win and they will say and do whatever it takes to do that.

Thats racing.....

+1......

[James]

Top level sports there is always mind games so the point is?

On the Stoner topic there was x-rays of his wrist showing the problem, he had an operation, then also had his hand in plaster, didn't ride much at all preseason. Now I'm not an expert but lets use some logic, if your wish is to be world champ motogp wouldn't you want to do all the testing & development you can before racing starts. Stoner didn't, would you walk around with fake plaster when you could have just used a splint & bandage to fake it.

So those that think he was faking must be orthopedic specialists & have also been able to examine his wrist for a diagnoses :lmao: You guys must also know what it is like to ride a motogp bike & the stresses it places on your body :confused1:

I for one don't give a flying f$%k what comes out of his mouth, what he does away from the track or anything else about him, I'm simply proud there is an Australian kicking ass in motogp & is one out of the top two riders in motogp.

Kick ass Stoner you have my support 100%

Agree on all of the above :ayyy:

[Bigdog]

Top level sports there is always mind games so the point is?

On the Stoner topic there was x-rays of his wrist showing the problem, he had an operation, then also had his hand in plaster, didn't ride much at all preseason. Now I'm not an expert but lets use some logic, if your wish is to be world champ motogp wouldn't you want to do all the testing & development you can before racing starts. Stoner didn't, would you walk around with fake plaster when you could have just used a splint & bandage to fake it.

So those that think he was faking must be orthopedic specialists & have also been able to examine his wrist for a diagnoses :lmao: You guys must also know what it is like to ride a motogp bike & the stresses it places on your body :confused1:

I for one don't give a flying f$%k what comes out of his mouth, what he does away from the track or anything else about him, I'm simply proud there is an Australian kicking ass in motogp & is one out of the top two riders in motogp.

Kick ass Stoner you have my support 100%

I totally agree with this. I can't believe all the crap he cops from Aussies. The kid is fast as fuck, determined as all hell and says it as it is. What's wrong with that, they can't all be Rossi clones now can they?
As long as an Aussie is up there winning it brings more attention to motorcycling in general.The Aussie mainstream news channels start reporting news of Casey's exploits more regularly now and who knows it might spark more interest in motorcycling in general. All positives in my eyes, Go Casey!!

[dazzler]

yip Dogg you got it there mate!!!

even bad publicity is publicity, for us getting noticed however is only going to get us more benefits

[OutOfControl]

The replay of the race is on One HD now just incased anyone missed it and wants to watch it.

[gazujc]

Some pics of 'that' incident.

http://i41.tinypic.com/benhs.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/29z32u9.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/29uvgnt.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/10nu9s1.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/96f861.jpg

You so have to love clear visors as they really show Pedrosa's eyes and focus throughout the incident.

At the same time, check Pedrosa's front wheel.







Garry

[Turtle]

He was lucky, he's front end shifted about 300mm

[Captain]

Top find Garry :clap:

[Turtle]

Pedrosa doesn't really look as though he's worried...

[gazujc]

Pedrosa doesn't really look as though he's worried...

That is actually what I like about the pics as to look at it, despite the hit, his eyes have not stopped focusing on the track ahead which is an excellent example of concentration and racing (well IMO)




Gaz

[Mrs Mozz]

:eek::eek::eek:Looked mad in the race, but those pics are just scary!
Amazing riders at that level:ayyy:

[Cedric]

We need more Rainey/Schwantz action!! Bring it on I say.

[Captain]

Vermeulen speaks about Qatar :ayyy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukrh8nb1110

[Mrs Mozz]

Cool. Thanks Cap:ayyy:

[gazujc]

Just to keep the thread alive here is a longer video of the Pedrosa/DeAngelis incident that shows entry to the corner as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trRntpAAycI
trRntpAAycI





Gaz

[Johnny]

Farrrrrkkkk...

[Turtle]

How the F@*K did he stay upright ??

[Cedric]

How the F@*K did he stay upright ??

That's why those guys are in MotoGP and we are not...:ayyy:

[spotcom]

I've just now finished watching the race (a very late replay...)

Do you reckon that Pedrosa slowed down in that corner, and that's why DeAngelis clipped him? In the full replay, you can see DeAngelis looking back at Pedrosa afterwards, and it was almost like a WTF shake of the head.

I know that de Angelis didn't get penalised for the incident, which may add weight to the argument that Pedrosa changed speed or line.

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/145308/1/de_angelis_escapes_punishment_for_pedrosa_clash.ht ml

[Turtle]

That's why those guys are in MotoGP and we are not...:ayyy:

Too true dude.........you got that right.....:ayyy: